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Re:Flatpak 1.0 Released, Ready for Prime Time by michaelmrose on Monday August 20, 2018 @02:22PM (#17802428)
" The goal is portable app bundles that the user can install from arbitrary sources on a whim without putting their OS at risk of malware or their data at risk of exfiltration."

This is not now nor will this ever be a thing. If you can run software on the host there will always be a way to compromise the host. It is not even 100% safe to run software in a vm because exploits have been found to break out.

Maintaining security on your phone requires the app store owner to invest time in proactively screening manually or automatically for malware or reactively removing it when found. It requires users to avoid stuff that looks like scammy bullshit or software from unofficial sources.

Both of these layers leak and when they do automated protections usually do as well because malware authors can easily test against existing protections, learn from one another, and distribute what works.

Re:Flatpak 1.0 Released, Ready for Prime Time by ethbro on Monday August 20, 2018 @06:30PM (#17804634)
> If you can run software on the host there will always be a way to compromise the host. It is not even 100% safe to run software in a vm because exploits have been found to break out.

That's... inaccurate. More valid statements would be:

- In a sufficiently complex OS, it is unlikely you will be perfectly safe running untrusted executables even with reduced permissions.

- Popular modern OS desktop distributions are very complex out of the box.

- Sandboxing prevents certain classes of attacks effectively, but should not be relied upon as a sole line of defense.

- Vulnerabilities have been found in VMs and containers, but they afford greater protection and isolation than running a process directly on a host system.

IOW, don't go No-True-Scotsman on security. A vulnerability does not invalidate all benefits of an architecture.