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Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by maxxxxx on Monday August 20, 2018 @10:44AM (#17800304)
Purely distributed teams are great if all processes are designed for that. But most companies don't do it right. In my company we augment the US team with Indian devs and it really sucks royally. Most decisions are still made in meetings so the Indians don't know what's going on. The 12 hour time difference requires either that the Indians stay up late or come in early or the US workers have to do it which sucks if you have a life outside of work. Resolving even little issues takes too long because round trip time between question and answer is often several days. We also never travel to India so we don't know the people personally and don't know how they are set up.

The way a lot of companies go about with distributed teams is the same they do with agile. Management picks a few artifacts (daily standups, detailed backlog) but most other structures stay in place so the result is highly dysfunctional.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by mr_tristan on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:26AM (#17800725)
I've worked full time remote for two companies now, and one was more like you described, where most of the team was in one place with "augmented" remote employees, and the other bit the bullet and treated everyone remotely, even though there are large physical offices where some people like to work. And the main issue is communication.

"Augmenting" your team with remote workers leads to horrible communication. First, meeting rooms require very good audio setup, and very few people will spend the time, hire a sound engineer, and operate the meeting such that everyone in the room is clearly audible. As a end result, the remote workers often sit there with the sound up trying to figure out what's being said most of the time. Thus, people can never really act normally - everything has to be this composed, staged, response.

Additionally, the mostly local team will frequently have offhand conversations the remote workers are never a part of. Thus, you get siloing. Add time zone shifts, and the amount of siloing increases.

The place I work for now has teams that rarely meet in a physical room together - even though several members sit near each other, everyone's got a headset. It is amazing how decent audio changes communication. We also frequently have chats online.

Additionally, all major meetings at my current company are held as if people are remote. And events or other informal affairs are kept organized and isolated. I don' t have to sit through notifications about the coffee machine on the 3rd floor of a building 1300 miles away being broken.

I believe this has led to senior management feeling comfortable working remotely as well, so some VPs work from cities where there is no significant office or company presence.

Now, I _do_ wish this company relied on writing, but not everyone is a good writer. It takes a lot of time to build up that kind of confidence. If I could make one change, it would be to improve writing.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by s73v3r_ on Monday August 20, 2018 @12:31PM (#17801327)
As someone who has to sit next to a team that does that, it's annoying as fuck to listen to people have a meeting like that.

EDIT: I don't know why this is downvoted. It's incredibly rude to have meetings at your desk like that in an open plan office.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by ptero on Monday August 20, 2018 @12:44PM (#17801458)
I agree that to make remote teams work the company (leads, actually) have to work differently. It can pay off or not, but assuming one can manage remote team just as you do a local one is a almost always a recipe for failure.

> Resolving even little issues takes too long because round trip time between question and answer is often several days.

This is the crux of the issue. You can expect question and answer round trip to be up to 24 hours, but the work flow must not depend on this being being minutes or hours. This means structuring work flow in larger chunks, writing tasks for remote teams clearly and having robust success criteria that remote team can check against, locally, before claiming they are done. And remote team must be able to understand what the request is before signing off on it -- at the very least they should have crystal clear understanding on those written success criteria.

Done this way, little issues that require a 24-hour turnaround are few and far between. It never works perfectly, so the company should also bring key tech leads together a few times per year. It is a different setup, requiring more careful planning at headquarters and competent leads, but it can be done.

But companies that manage remote teams as if they sit in the same building will get some serious disappointment. My 2c.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by some_account on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:02AM (#17800508)
Ive never seen it work in practice. It just leads to endless meetings in attempt to synchronize what each team's are doing, and it's often very difficult to understand eachother over video only.

When I was working like that for a short while, I was trying hard to not collaborate with anyone and just do things myself in order to continue to make progress and get something done. Other team members who were trying to collaborate had extremely low output and their days were filled with troubleshooting stuff together with the remote team since basic things didn't work or got blocked by knowledge not existing on one side etc.

It was a nightmare.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by j16sdiz on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:42AM (#17800846)
It could work if everybody is comfortable to use email (or another async form of communication) and task tracker.

A few bad members can ruin everything.

Re:Distributed teams are rewriting the rules of office politics by growlist on Monday August 20, 2018 @12:05PM (#17801068)
Definitely agree with that. Issue trackers in particular I've found to be a very powerful tool for navigating an environment that has bad actors within it - when everything is down in black and white it greatly reduces attempts at weasally behaviour from the more Machiavellian. Sad to say, I've come across this type more than once.