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Re:Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Se... by intended on Saturday August 18, 2018 @04:25AM (#17787477)
yup- the "consumer" is not a source of moral force. Its an approximation of whatever purchase decisions people make.

So consumers would of course be happy if you made plastic straws - look at how many get sold!

Now if you told people they would not have plastics, and everything would cost 5x more because we dont have a cheap packaging option, OR tell people that they couldnt transport liquids anymore because we dont have bottles - well you can imagine those customers and consumers would be upset.

The economy is not moral.

Morality is laws and regulations which impose restrictions on the system to make it

fair Environmentally friendly less exploitive etc.

We try and let the market resolve as much of this on its own, so that we can have market efficiency without tying it up with regulations.

Re:Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Se... by smolder on Saturday August 18, 2018 @10:28AM (#17788596)
Consumers are happy about plastic straws because it was conveniently (for the producer of straws) not communicated to them how manufacture of plastic straws is irresponsible and creates external costs to the environment at no cost to the producer.

You can't honestly believe it's both okay to mislead people in commerce and okay to put the onus of good judgement on them.