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Re:Name and Shame: IBM by _m96l on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:37AM (#17774955)
Yeah, look at these people, expecting to be paid their market value!

I mean, they're just engineers, right? They should be thankful for anything thrown their way, even if they'll never be able to afford a house or raise a family on it.

They should be working for the lowest comp possible, just like the founders, chief executives, and the VCs.

P.S. there was a NYT article posted here just a couple of days ago about how it's become incredibly easy to raise VC rounds of $100m+. There's a ton of money pouring into tech right now, and everyone is benefiting, from VCs to chief executives. Except engineers. We're not supposed to enjoy this success, I mean, all we do is build the products.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/technology/venture-capita...

Re:Name and Shame: IBM by tdumitrescu on Thursday August 16, 2018 @01:27PM (#17776701)
> everyone is benefiting, from VCs to chief executives. Except engineers.

I don't know what world you're living in, but engineering salaries _have_ absolutely shot up in recent years. 10 years ago no engineer was scoffing at making 6 figures straight out of school. I remember being wowed when a friend reported that Google had started regularly offering 105K to fresh grads.

Re:Name and Shame: IBM by dunpeal on Thursday August 16, 2018 @09:20PM (#17779655)
The article was about VC funding for startups. Has comp at startups improved that much recently? Not to my knowledge.
Re:Name and Shame: IBM by tdumitrescu on Saturday August 18, 2018 @12:44AM (#17786908)
In my experience at several startups, and discussions with numerous friends and colleagues in similar positions, yes the eng comp at startups is much better than it was 5 years ago.
Re:Name and Shame: IBM by seattle_spring on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:52AM (#17775095)
The salaries they are quoting are market for the top tier. IBM is not the top tier.
Re:Name and Shame: IBM by mental1896 on Thursday August 16, 2018 @11:29AM (#17775485)
100k is below average for a software developer in the area: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-jose-software-develop...
Re:Name and Shame: IBM by seattle_spring on Thursday August 16, 2018 @11:40AM (#17775610)
And new grads make below average, because they're below average in experience. What's your point?