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Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:18AM (#17774774)
Pattern recognition of common bomb and gun configurations? Or better, any non-standard configuration.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by jandrese on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:55AM (#17775133)
That might be able to detect something like a hand grenade (but honestly I'm dubious), but finding "non-standard configurations" seems like it requires a full up strong AI. It has to be able to look at a jumble of components in a configuration it has never seen before and recognize that it is a bomb. This is hard problem for humans and hits on several hard aspects of AI at once.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday August 16, 2018 @11:46AM (#17775657)
Or just recognize it as not-a-bomb. Easier - e.g. the set of metal things normally in luggage may be small
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by jandrese on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:11PM (#17775897)
Bombs aren't necessarily made out of metal.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by killjoywashere on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:21PM (#17779873)
The fusing wires almost certainly are, unless you're dealing with a nation-state or, possibly, a major corporation.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by foxyv on Friday August 17, 2018 @10:56AM (#17783274)
Unless you just use a fuse, Looney Toons/Shoe Bomber style.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by darawk on Thursday August 16, 2018 @01:49PM (#17776954)
No, but guns are.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by newman8r on Thursday August 16, 2018 @01:57PM (#17777040)
guns can be made with 3d printed plastic. https://defdist.org/
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by LyndsySimon on Thursday August 16, 2018 @03:44PM (#17777877)
This isn't new, or unique to 3d printing. Plastic/polymer firearms have been around for a long time, including a few out there with ceramic barrels and chambers.

Ammunition is easier to detect, generally - almost all of it is metallic-cased and uses a metallic projectile. There have been attempts to create practical baseless ammunition, but they've generally been failures and I'm not aware of any available for purchase commercially.

Ultimately, this sort of thing is interesting from a technical perspective but not really very useful. This is even more the case in the US, as firearms are ubiquitous. In 2016, there were 14.5 million active concealed carry permits in the US, and in 11 states, no license was required to carry concealed.

Given that something like one in twenty or so adults in most parts of the country are probably carrying a firearm at any given time, knowing "there's a gun in the room" isn't very useful.

Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by bdhess on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:16PM (#17779848)
> Given that something like one in twenty or so adults in most parts of the country are probably carrying a firearm at any given time

I think that’s a gross overestimation. I would guess that most CCW permit holders hardly ever carry in practice (source: used to have one).

There are states where you don’t need a permit to own a pistol at all. In others, you may not technically need one to take your gun to the shooting range (because after all, if you own one, you should practice) but...

If you’re stopped by police in a context where you don’t need a permit, it’s still always better to have one. If the police aren’t aware of the law or the particular permit exception you fall under, the best likely outcome is you get put in a cage while they figure it out. Having a permit helps avoid that.

Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by beenBoutIT on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:51PM (#17778302)
If the NRA was clever they would make a much bigger deal about how many guns are already out in circulation in America, and how there's literally nothing that can ever be done to remove them all. The vanguard of gun violence prevention's focus on keeping guns out of the hands of America's growing population of violent mentally ill individuals isn't realistic. It's going to be much easier to identify and remove the violent mentally ill people from society than to remove all of the ways in which they can inflict harm.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by newman8r on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:15PM (#17778094)
Yeah I don't think it's any cause for alarm, and I agree that it's mostly interesting from a technical perspective.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by nordsieck on Thursday August 16, 2018 @03:52PM (#17777917)
> guns can be made with 3d printed plastic.

If you're referring to the Liberator, it uses a metal nail as a firing pin.

Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by ocdtrekkie on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:36PM (#17778223)
But now you're talking about detecting a nail. Which if you decided to ban (somehow?), you'd still be tasked with detecting a tiny object. Most metal detectors are tuned not to even care about normal size belt buckles as far as I know.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by newman8r on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:04PM (#17778029)
I hadn't thought about that but it makes sense. I wonder if there's any type of plastic filament that could do the job.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by nordsieck on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:59PM (#17778362)
> I wonder if there's any type of plastic filament that could do the job.

On a practical note, probably not: the designers probably tried really hard to make a fully plastic gun - they took the trouble to make the barrel out of plastic - but didn't. Stands to reason that it's due to necessity.

At a more theoretical level, I think you'd find it exceedingly difficult to trigger a primer using a material softer than the primer itself.

I'm sure it's not impossible - for example, you could probably trigger a primer by shooting it with a plastic bullet - but within the engineering confines of a handgun it seems implausible, particularly since the easy solution, using a nail, is so readily available.

Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by sargun on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:33PM (#17779914)
What about ceramic, glass, or heat activated?
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by chillingeffect on Thursday August 16, 2018 @05:27PM (#17778551)
some landmines use glass ceramic firing pins, according to wikipedia.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by darawk on Thursday August 16, 2018 @03:27PM (#17777773)
Ya, but they're not very good.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by lostlogin on Thursday August 16, 2018 @03:32PM (#17777795)
Considering the world impact a couple of box cutters had, I think we can agree that a gun doesn’t need to be all that good.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by darawk on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:45PM (#17778271)
They would have zero impact now. Cockpit doors are reinforced in planes.
Re:Engineers Say They've Created a Way to Detect Bombs and G... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:54AM (#17775118)
>Or better, any non-standard configuration.

Sure, if your definition of better is generating a ton of false positives as a pretext for patting people down.