News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:YC China and Qi Lu by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @01:12AM (#17763903)
Many foreigners have VPNs, but many do not. They aren't the easiest thing to set up, and they often close shop a few weeks after you pay a yearly subscription fee.

Email: I use outlook.com, but I shut my gmail account long before gmail was blocked. I'm weird.

maps: Apple Maps on an iphone works well enough. Not sure if gmaps on Android works or not. Many Google services still work even if a few are blocked.

Browsing: many websites work in China, but I also had full internet access at work for when I needed it, so Facebooking family was easy enough, I just didn't use it at night when I was at home...I didn't miss it.

Its definitely isolating, but not incredibly so. If you are addicted to social media, this can even help you become unaddicted, weird therapy for sure :)

Re:YC China and Qi Lu by telltruth on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @06:23AM (#17764932)
Is VPN legal? What are English options for maps with transit available without vpn?
Re:YC China and Qi Lu by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @09:38AM (#17765906)
Apple maps works perfectly fine in China. I’m not sure what it’s like for android users.

It includes transit, at least for Beijing, see https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/. I always took a taxi though so that wasn’t very important to me, so I used mostly the didi dache app.

Re:YC China and Qi Lu by avcdsuia on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @04:41AM (#17764542)
For crying out loud, even using github based services like 'go get' or homebrew without proxies is a real pain in the arse, stop defending your 'it's not that bad' view cos it is.
Re:YC China and Qi Lu by dang on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @12:23PM (#17767248)
Please don't cross into flamewar mode. We're trying to avoid that here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html