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Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by zepto on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @11:30AM (#17758818)
The iPhone location history is on your iPhone not at Apple.

And Apple doesn’t track you. They cycle identifiers regularly for exactly this reason.

Spreading falsehoods about this being something everyone does is harmful because it normalizes the abusive behavior from those that actually do.

Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by russellbeattie on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @05:15PM (#17769849)
In order for your location as given by GPS to be useful, a round trip to a server is made to convert that information into a street address. This geocoding could be done client side, but for practical purposes, it's not. This is even moreso for additional external information mobiles use to better locate you, such as known WiFi access points, "beacons" and cell tower IDs.

All of that server traffic is logged (by both Apple and your carrier), and can be requested by law enforcement if needed. Regardless of what Apple marketing and lawyers would like you to think, your phone is being tracked in real time, always. Always.

Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by zepto on Saturday August 18, 2018 @08:35PM (#17791756)
You are just guessing, right?

I’m aware of Apple’s geocoding service. It uses an encrypted connection, so the server traffic is not ‘logged by your carrier’, and they use transient identifiers so your location is not ‘logged by Apple’ and can’t be ‘requested by law enforcement if needed’.

Carriers are a different matter, but don’t make stuff up about Apple.

Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by Lendal on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:14PM (#17759220)
The reason the location history is not local is because the data is for Timeline, a feature of Google Maps which has its own web site. If the data were only local, I wouldn't be able to use a web browser on my computer to peruse my Timeline and photos from my phone. It would be broken.
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by zepto on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @11:57PM (#17763651)
What are you talking about? We know google is keeping tracking data despite users turning it off.

But Apple is not.

Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by Lendal on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @10:04AM (#17766077)
Read the article.
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by zepto on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @10:11AM (#17766115)
I did, and it supports my point.

Nowhere does it say anything about apple tracking people.

What’s your point?

Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by tokyodude on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:11PM (#17759194)
If Apple doesn't track me then why does icloud.com force me to re-login every time I switch which country I'm in? How would they know I moved countries (plane/vpn) if I weren't remembering where I was previously?
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by pacala on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:24PM (#17759311)
IP
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by tokyodude on Friday August 17, 2018 @05:17PM (#17785627)
in other words it tracks me..it's not when I switch ips. it's when u switch countries. it may be figuring that out by up but it had to remember my previous ip and distiguish country which is by definition tracking
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by ferongr on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:09PM (#17759180)
How do you know? Have you audited the source of iOS?
Re:Google tracks users who turn off location history by zepto on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @11:56PM (#17763645)
No but I believe the technical whitepapers and public statements Apple has made.

If you are going to just claim they are lying, you are the one who needs evidence.