Re:Programming in the Adult Entertainment Industry Is Broken
by karrotwaltz on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @11:20AM
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Bundling a physical good with a digital one has been done before, so if I understand correctly the only problem here is that the usage of a t-shirt is purely to circumvent the ban from the bank (due to high chargeback rate)...
In that case, and theoretically, bundling the physical good with a digital access right from the start would be perfectly legal right?
It would still be a dodgy way to reduce chargebacks, but assuming no bank ban occurs, it shouldn't be a breach of contract.
Re:Programming in the Adult Entertainment Industry Is Broken
by moneylaundering on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @03:36PM
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Yes, good faith bundling is just fine, just a business decision as far as I’m concerned, and if it reduces your chargebacks, good!
Circumvention and deception (which require clear intent, hence the emails) are the issue.
Re:Programming in the Adult Entertainment Industry Is Broken
by stef25 on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @06:47PM
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Personally I'm nowhere near any of this business (nor any business at all for that matter) and I'm in Europe where I'm sure laws differ. Anyway, just out of curiosity are you involved in this from the law enforcement side?
The T-shirt think I mentioned was just off the cuff, I'm surprised this is actually being done.
In a hypothetical scenario where I saw this occurring, I would look for emails, texts, etc where you admit that you actually intend to sell memberships, and the T-shirt sales are merely to obtain payment processing services to get the fraud charges up.
Then I’d rack up the dollar amounts against you under money laundering statutes and stack them so you’d be looking at some pretty major prison time.
All this over selling some T-shirts to get a payment processor for your adult site? You bet! I’m working on very similar cases now.