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Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by gaius on Sunday August 12, 2018 @01:43AM (#17743103)
threats" in and of themselves. Being surveilled or shown ads doesn't itself harm you

But it does. If you need a product generally you would just go out and buy it. Ads are psychologically manipulating you to buy things you don’t need and spend your limited time on this Earth doing things that aren’t beneficial to you. It wasn’t too bad when it was just billboards and TV slots but now it’s you vs the algorithms on a personal level.

Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by sharcerer on Sunday August 12, 2018 @08:39AM (#17744086)
Shelves on shops manipulate you. Some products are put in front, some in the back. Back in the day, small companies suffered due to this and big brands used to get more brand placement. Counters have inexpensive candies, so that, instead of giving change money back they can give you candies. On the other hand, that surveillance by Google gives me great Articles in Google Chrome. There are scores of programming related articles which i wouldn't have discovered otherwise. I mean I can't "just go and read an article: when i don't know about that website. To each their own.
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by euyyn on Sunday August 12, 2018 @03:32AM (#17743374)
One of the things that has had the most profound influence in my life was to apply for and get a fellowship that paid me graduate studies in the US. The only reason I learned of its existence was my mom seeing an ad of it on the newspaper.
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by teddyh on Sunday August 12, 2018 @04:24AM (#17743503)
Ah, anecdotes. “My grandfather smoked two packs of cigarettes a day, and he lived to be a 110.”
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by euyyn on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:11AM (#17748126)
What a ridiculous argument. I didn't get that fellowship despite the ad, unlike your grandfather who reached an old age despite smoking. I got it thanks to the ad.
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by teddyh on Monday August 13, 2018 @07:17AM (#17749273)
You got the fellowship from the ad despite the vanishingly small chance that anyone would see it.
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by euyyn on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:03PM (#17751595)
You must realize that what you're saying is an argument for better targeted ads. If you don't, I don't know how to help you see it.
Re:Google Public DNS turns 8.8.8.8 years old by teddyh on Monday August 13, 2018 @05:03PM (#17753617)
Better targeted ads for some truly unequivocally beneficial things like scholarships might be a good thing, all else being equal. But:

1. Targeted ads requires enormous machineries of surveillance and file-keeping. Having too much information in closely related form is akin to having too much uranium in close proximity; it causes problems all of its own almost just by merely existing.

2. Ads in general, even the beneficial ones are, by definition, distracting from whatever content we were trying to read. See: São Paulo’s “Cidade Limpa”.