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Re:China is detaining a million Uighur muslims in a secret camp by throwando208818 on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:09PM (#17738063)
"To deny something that exists, and if there is open evidence that it does exists, really has to hurt one's own credibility." --Careful with that thinking, you likely live/cameup in a somewhat free/democratic society

If you talk to folks who have to live in say Russia/Putin-stan today when the government lies and everyone knows that the government knows that everyone knows they're lying it's actually a mechanism of intimidation and control.

It really boils down to "we can get away with saying or doing whatever we want-- what are YOU going to do about it?" or "Your facts don't matter, your information doesn't matter, your data doesn't matter, your truth doesn't matter-- all that matters is power and we have the power and we're in charge."

This strategy is a bit different from the casual/blatant general dishonesty of the current American president (it seems to be a bit of a personal tick rather than this kind of deliberate thinking) --- but it is absolutely a well-worn trick of nightmare authoritarian regimes.

If you're not already familiar, check out these journalists:

- julia ioffe

- masha gessen

If you want some provocative Chinese muck-raking, these sometimes be useful/interesting resources:

- https://www.chinasmack.com/

- http://www.chinauncensored.tv/

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