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Re:Gatekeepers or Censors? How Tech Manages Online Speech by baud147258 on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:18AM (#17716627)
> If there is one thing I wish I could beat into people's heads with a stick about online discourse, is that any place free of moderation is not going to be a free speech haven, but a cesspit where the people with the most free time will dominate and drive out others.

It depends. One forum where I spend some of my time has very hands-off moderation and it does have a) some quality conversations b) diversity of opinions. Of course it descends regularly in low-quality drivel, insults and/or shitposting, especially on controversial subjects, but it works.

Edit: But I can't say that it works everywehre, just that it can work.

Re:Gatekeepers or Censors? How Tech Manages Online Speech by pavel_lishin on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:27AM (#17716700)
It can definitely work in certain cases, especially when there's a single very clear focus or purpose for the forum, or some sort of accountability for your opinions.
Re:Gatekeepers or Censors? How Tech Manages Online Speech by baud147258 on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:42AM (#17716830)
> single very clear focus or purpose for the forum

It's the case on that forum and the off-topic discussions (religion & politics) are accesible only to accounts older than 1 year, so it helps to limit shitposting in those discussions. Accountability for your opinions in that case just mean getting mocked by other people (I said free speech, not nice speech).

I just wanted to show an counter-example disagreeing with your (apparently) absolute position.

Re:Gatekeepers or Censors? How Tech Manages Online Speech by pavel_lishin on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:43PM (#17717819)
> Accountability for your opinions in that case just mean getting mocked by other people

Yup! That's one of the good ways of holding people accountable.

Re:Gatekeepers or Censors? How Tech Manages Online Speech by baud147258 on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @03:36PM (#17718753)
Also they have tags that will appear above the user portrait, to indicate the more troublesome members. They are applied by the few moderators. They include shiposter, idiot, edgy...