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Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by dragonwriter on Monday August 06, 2018 @10:22PM (#17703471)
> Incarceration is 100% effective for what America wants it to achieve: penance.

“Punishment”, perhaps. It's far less than 100% effective for penance, which is voluntary, self-imposed, and done as an outward sign of genuine acceptance of responsibility and desire to make amends.

Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by ilovetux on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @07:33AM (#17705510)
This, a thousand times! Our criminal justice system is in fact based on penance, but forced penance is a flawed concept. In order to get a lighter sentence (or later parole) perpetrators are expected to show penance for what they did, but they are coached in what to say so it is usually a lie which causes a rift between society and the offender which is almost irreparable.

This follows a line of "counter-culture" mentality, an us-vs-them mind-set which is divisive and self-reinforcing. The same problem comes with the war on drugs, if someone experiments with drugs at a young age and consequentially finds that they like drugs then they are forced into a counter-culture where escape is difficult at best.

Edit: removed some superfluous words for readability.

Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by zamalek on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:02PM (#17703598)
Wrong choice of words, you're right.
Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by SamReidHughes on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @12:44AM (#17703921)
"Expiation" might be the word you're looking for.
Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by gnode on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @08:26AM (#17705830)
I would say that "expiation" is not a suitable word. Incarceration neither compensates those who are wronged, nor does it atone / redeem -- the incarcerated person is still typically regarded a criminal / felon upon release.