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Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by YeGoblynQueenne on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:41AM (#17698583)
>> It's not (necessarily) some highly complicated secret software available to a limited number of organizations that could keep it under wraps - currently, any decent CS undergraduate student could make a passable facial recognition system as a study project if they really wanted to, using only generic, freely available image processing / machine learning resources (i.e. nothing specific to facial recognition that could be regulated or restricted).

Well, stealing candy from a baby, or robbing an old woman is not hard to do either; anyone could do it, with even less skill than "a decent CS undergraduate student". Yet, it is illegal to do so and there will definitely be consequences to any such attempt.

In other words- something doesn't need to be hard to do, in order for it to be illegal, neither are there fewer consequences for performing illegal acts that are easy, rather than hard.

Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by candiodari on Monday August 06, 2018 @12:15PM (#17698943)
Governments, you know, those people you're counting on to make it illegal and catch ... themselves ? Are the primary users of facial recognition, as anyone who's gone through customs in any EU country can tell you.

Those very same governments are also the main problem with censorship, and of course, their agents (police, politicians, ...) have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted with a stick [1], and don't follow the law.

And this is ignoring the fact that governments frequently see themselves as exempted for the law. In many cases, they build this into the laws in the first place.

So what exactly are you proposing we do ? If governments use this, who really cares who else is abusing it ?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nAYd6Gpt4

Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by YeGoblynQueenne on Monday August 06, 2018 @05:28PM (#17701933)
I believe the idea is to ban the use of facial recognition by international agreement, in the same way that chemical and biological weapons, landmines and cluster munitions are banned (or at least controlled). The safeguarding of such a treaty is then left to some supra-national organisation, such as the UN, etc.

In any case, I don't understand what you propose we do. Governments can fail to uphold their own laws. Should we do away with all laws? And then- what? A life of total lawlessness is better than one where laws are sometimes broken by government?

Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by getcrunk on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:47PM (#17700388)
I didn’t see any egregious violence or breach of trust by the officers in ur video. Maybe I’m biased cus the cops where I live routinely send people to the icu or coroner for just being in the vicinity of a cop
Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by coldtea on Monday August 06, 2018 @05:09PM (#17701801)
>Maybe I’m biased cus the cops where I live routinely send people to the icu or coroner for just being in the vicinity of a cop

In western countries with civilized police and legal systems this is not tolerated.

Re:Facial Recognition Is the Perfect Tool for Oppression by emiliobumachar on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:18PM (#17700785)
Laws limiting government power are a tried and true technique. They're no panacea, but a nice complement to the necessary eternal vigilance.