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Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by cptskippy on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:12PM (#17689032)
Is 150 miles a big deal because of the time period or because it's the UK? For some reason they seem to make a big deal about distances that are a day trip in the US.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by GlennS on Saturday August 04, 2018 @09:33PM (#17689236)
The people who built Stonehenge probably didn't have wheels or domesticated horses.

Also, Wales is hilly [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wales&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images...], and there is a the choice of a either rather dangerous river [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=severn+bore&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=...] or the Irish Sea [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wales+south+coast&t=ffab&iar=image...] to get past to get from Wales to Stonehenge.

On the other hand, all that water probably helped when they had to get the stones there.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by singularity2001 on Sunday August 05, 2018 @04:47AM (#17690389)
Sledges were a thing before 4000BC, the wheel became widespread by 3000BC, so at least the later structures sure had some wheel tech involved.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday August 05, 2018 @05:30AM (#17690497)
In fact no one knows how the stones were moved. You will not find an archaeologist willing to put money down with a definitive statement - even for the sarsens, which are relatively local.

Whatever the tech used, it was beyond a Moon shot in neolithic terms.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by fao_ on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:38PM (#17689102)
> For some reason they seem to make a big deal about distances that are a day trip in the US.

The terrain in the UK is much, much more dense than in the US. I live in Wales, UK. My train to the nearest city takes (almost exactly) an hour and 10 minutes to travel less than 24 miles distance because of the local geography, it takes the same via car and bus. To contrast, one of my ex-colleagues traveled daily to the same location from 72 miles away via the car, and it took them only 40 minutes because of the variation in geography.

EDIT: This isn't to mention the extremes in weather that both the position of the entire island, and the local geography creates. We kept away the Romans for a long time simply through our geography, and weather.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by 13of40 on Sunday August 05, 2018 @02:53AM (#17690099)
>The terrain in the UK is much, much more dense than in the US.

Probably depends on whether you're comparing it to Wyoming or Cascadia.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by delinka on Saturday August 04, 2018 @09:59PM (#17689304)
Did you perhaps mean “72km away”? If you did mean miles, that’s some very fast driving.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by fao_ on Saturday August 04, 2018 @11:14PM (#17689470)
According to Google the exact driving route is 72.6 miles, it is along several motorways.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by AaronFriel on Saturday August 04, 2018 @11:29PM (#17689516)
There are motorways where people (safely) drive 175km/hr in the UK?
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by barrkel on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:31AM (#17691012)
On my motorbike, I'd comfortably do 95 to 100 mph on the motorway. But you're asking for trouble if you push it to 120, which is what you'd need at least to reliably average 114 mph.

Most cars don't travel above 90mph. I'd say that's the 98th percentile speed, with 100mph somewhere near 99.5 percentile - ie one in 200 cars going faster.

North Wales is a particularly poor choice of place to speed (notorious amongst bikers for harsh enforcement), but that's probably with a focus on rural roads.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by ggm on Sunday August 05, 2018 @02:41AM (#17690055)
I used to hitch rides in the UK. The number of travelling salesmen who drive continuously at over 90 miles/hr freaked me out (lorry drivers didn't speed nearly as much. They have tachometers)

So whilst this is the upper edge, from personal experience I can believe it.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by implements on Sunday August 05, 2018 @06:05AM (#17690554)
> They have tachometers ...

Heavy Goods Vehicles are also legally required to be ECU speed limited to 90 kph (56 mph) as well - which is pretty soul-crushing if you ever have to drive one.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by chrisseaton on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:01AM (#17690895)
> Is 150 miles a big deal because of the time period or because it's the UK? For some reason they seem to make a big deal about distances that are a day trip in the US.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... but Stonehenge was built before there were cars or widespread domesticated horses in Britain. 150 miles is not a day-trip on foot.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by cptskippy on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:35AM (#17698525)
I wasn't implying that 150 miles was a day trip when Stonehenge was built. I was questioning more why the distance was significant in the original title.

Assuming the bodies were brought from Wales, 150 miles wouldn't be a remarkable distance to transport a body. I say that because the stones in Stonehenge came from Wales and are orders of magnitude more difficult to transport than a body would have been. And that's assuming these are people who died in Wales when it's entirely possible these might have been the people moving the stones or constructing the monument who died on site.

On the other hand, people in the UK today seem to make a much bigger deal about travel distances than people from other countries.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by matte_black on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:14PM (#17689039)
Probably took about 10 days to cover those 150 miles one way.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by ianai on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:16PM (#17689044)
Why? Is the terrain tough or they just would have been on foot? (Having no knowledge of the geography)
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by chrisseaton on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:06AM (#17690906)
> they just would have been on foot?

What era do you think we're talking about? This is about five-thousand years ago. It's the Neolithic Age. There were no cars and probably very few domesticated horses. Yeah... they would have been on foot.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by matte_black on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:21PM (#17689061)
Probably the dead body was a tough logistics problem. Gotta haul a casket, and also feed the party over the course of the days, while also watching out for roving highwaymen. Perilous days.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by Alupis on Saturday August 04, 2018 @08:31PM (#17689087)
The California missions are spaced approximately 30 miles apart, which was considered a days journey with the intention one could travel from mission to mission. This was, of course, with horses and wagons, etc... So about 10-15 miles a day back then is a reasonable assumption I think.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by cptskippy on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:35PM (#17699765)
They seemed to manage moving the several ton blue stones from Wales to the site, a dead body seems trivial by comparison.

That's assuming the body was dead prior to arrival. For all we know they could have been part of the group delivering stones and died on arrival.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by kathe-rine on Saturday August 04, 2018 @09:55PM (#17689290)
The scientists in the article suspect that the bodies were cremated elsewhere, and the ashes transported to Stonehenge.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by chrisseaton on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:08AM (#17690913)
> highwaymen

You're about four-and-a-half thousand years out there...

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by matte_black on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:55PM (#17694450)
Perhaps they would be more like roving barbarians.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by untog on Saturday August 04, 2018 @10:12PM (#17689340)
In addition to what others have said, this is also one part of a larger mystery. The stones that make up Stonehenge also came from Wales, and people have been trying to work out for a long time how on earth people transported rocks that size.
Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by cup-of-tea on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:03AM (#17690898)
You do understand that people 5000 years ago didn't have cars, right?

I suggest going for a long walk some time. It gives you a proper understanding of geography.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by cptskippy on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:41AM (#17698584)
The original title implied the 150 mile distance was significant. Consider however that the stones for the monument came from Wales too and are much much heavier than a corpse. Also it's entirely possible the "corpse" was alive when it left Wales and died en route or at the monument. Perhaps they were involved in transporting the rocks.

So my question was, what's the significance of the distance here? Doesn't seem like there's much and that it's just British people being British about their distances.

Re:People buried at Stonehenge may have come from as far awa... by alkonaut on Sunday August 05, 2018 @08:31AM (#17691011)
Still, 150 miles on foot seems like noting in this context considering the stones are from what 30 miles away? That is hard to fathom.