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Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by callandreturn on Friday August 03, 2018 @05:35PM (#17683823)
Hm. As a woman, I can't say I've ever thought of harassment when men have started friendly conversation with me. Is that not a bit of an exaggeration? If a man catcalled "nice tits" or something, then yeah, that would be harassment. But conversation? Not nearly the risk your describing, I don't think.
Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by ironjunkie on Friday August 03, 2018 @05:44PM (#17683887)
I agree with you, but I think people avoid even the possibility//higher risk associated with the awkward start of the conversation.

I work in tech and some of my male coworkers privately tell me that they avoid talking to womens they don't know at networking events or at conferences because of the way it might be interpreted nowadays.

Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by callandreturn on Friday August 03, 2018 @06:17PM (#17684071)
I think there's a difference between initial awkwardness or fear of rejection -- which are totally valid feelings in social interaction, and not just limited to men -- and fear of being accused of harassment for making polite conversation.

I also think that it's easy to get sucked into circle-jerks that promote and exaggerate these fears of being accused of harassment. As long as you're considerate and respectful, no reasonable person would think you're harassing them. There are always unreasonable people, that shouldn't divide us into men vs women, into groups that fear interacting with each other.

Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by pixelperfect on Friday August 03, 2018 @06:09PM (#17684028)
Most women would not consider such an ordinary social interaction to be harassment, but suppose a small fraction do - being perceived or accused of harassment is such a negative thing that it can be a strong deterrent even if there's a low chance of it actually happening.
Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by s-shellfish on Friday August 03, 2018 @06:45PM (#17684221)
Most men aren't psychopaths, but a small fraction are. Perceiving all men as such even if there's a low chance of it actually happening...
Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by jplayer01 on Saturday August 04, 2018 @03:44AM (#17685852)
If you're accused of harassment as a guy, that has huge negative social and career effects that are close to impossible to fight. Everybody turns against you and you're ostracized from your community. It's a big deal.
Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by s-shellfish on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @07:35PM (#17770672)
Of course it's a big deal. I never disagreed with that to begin with. Some people understand ostracism. That's why they don't do the things that cause ostracism.
Re:Nearly Half of Americans Are Lonely by callandreturn on Friday August 03, 2018 @06:18PM (#17684075)
My following reply to ironjunkie is a reply to your comment as well -- I think what you said would be such a shame.