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Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by blub on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:15AM (#17669556)
Software engineering is very hard and can't be taught in bootcamps, blog posts or on the job. It takes years of concentrated effort and quality learning material.

A significant number of graduates of computer science couldn't do software engineering after graduation even before.

That barrier to entry is designed to protect society from poor quality software and actual software engineers from having to suffer through picking up the broken pieces after those people that were helped to jump the barrier.

Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by projektir on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:46AM (#17669858)
Where can it be taught, then? There are no resources for this right now, mostly people are left to their own devices.

Most barriers to entry are not designed to protect anyone, they're designed to preserve power. To protect people from bad products, you need regulation, accreditation, etc.

Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by blub on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:30AM (#17670430)
There are very good universities focusing on computer science and software engineering in most countries.

This is the first step. Then one needs to find a company with a good engineering culture, apply the theory they learned and gather experience. Ideally one should find a qualified engineer as mentor.

Self-study and being aware of developments in the profession are the last piece of the puzzle.

Yes, some people won't be able to do some of these things and as a result they won't be good software engineers. They could still be successful programers, the two aren't necessarily related.

Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by projektir on Friday August 03, 2018 @02:04AM (#17677580)
This seems more like what you would like to happen, not what actually happens to most people, so it doesn't really qualify as resources.
Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by Papirola on Thursday August 02, 2018 @10:22PM (#17676895)
Universities ?
Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by projektir on Friday August 03, 2018 @02:01AM (#17677575)
Most universities don't even cover something as basic as version control. Monitoring? Forget it.
Re:How we spent $30k in Firebase in less than 72 hours by bushin on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:37AM (#17669634)
Type with one hand, make your software better!