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Re:How America Uses Its Land by hueving on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @02:02AM (#17660070)
>Does the Mojave have to be useful to humans to be a valuable thing?

Yes, humans are the only creatures we know of with the concept of valuing land.

Re:How America Uses Its Land by distant_hat on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @04:42AM (#17660634)
Territoriality is coded really deep in evolution. Even animals as simple as the fruit fly get aggressive when another fly takes its space.
Re:How America Uses Its Land by hueving on Friday August 03, 2018 @02:35AM (#17677692)
They don't value anything other than the space they currently occupy. That's not valuing land so much as valuing immediate space.

There are absolutely no animals in Africa that value any land in South America other than some humans.

Re:How America Uses Its Land by jaggederest on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @05:03AM (#17660773)
Well, I value both the Mojave and the Oregon High Desert as unique places in the world. Not everything needs to have a ROI, usefulness, or our permission to be valuable.
Re:How America Uses Its Land by perfmode on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @02:30AM (#17660166)
huh? do other creatures not inhabit space?

does a creature need to have a concept of value in order to value things?

Re:How America Uses Its Land by empath75 on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:05AM (#17662089)
He’s clearly taking about economic value.
Re:How America Uses Its Land by Arnt on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @04:06AM (#17660462)
Yes, iff "value" is to have a meaning distinct from other verbs in the opinion of that creature.
Re:How America Uses Its Land by hueving on Friday August 03, 2018 @02:33AM (#17677679)
Just inhabiting a space does not mean you value it.
Re:How America Uses Its Land by Torwald on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @08:47AM (#17661969)
Thank you for this comment. This is one of the things I like on HN, people think profoundly.