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Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by JumpCrisscross on Monday July 30, 2018 @03:25PM (#17647221)
> a day trader can cash out in a second; you and I will will have to wait two business days

Why the delay?

Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by fallingfrog on Monday July 30, 2018 @03:50PM (#17647410)
You can log on to your 401k account and move your position over to treasury bonds or something that looks safer, but they will wait two business days to process the transaction. I know from personal experience; don't see much information online about the phenomenon. My guess is that they are legally allowed to do this, probably because they wrote the law.
Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by JumpCrisscross on Monday July 30, 2018 @03:54PM (#17647440)
> they will wait two business days to process the transaction

This was a decision your 401(k) provider made. The proper person to gripe to is whomever in HR chose a cheap provider. (They make up for reduced administrative costs by (a) being less efficient and (b) capturing float.)

Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by fallingfrog on Monday July 30, 2018 @04:36PM (#17647793)
Ah, here it is in the FAQ:

"When selling a mutual fund to purchase a fund in a different family, you are selling the mutual fund you own and using the proceeds to purchase another fund in a different fund family. Since you are performing a cross family trade, the settlement date for the sale will differ from the settlement date for the purchase. Typically, cross family trades execute over two business days."

Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by fallingfrog on Monday July 30, 2018 @04:46PM (#17647871)
The funny thing is, even though they say "up to 2 business days", the trade was executed at 3:59:59 PM on the dot, on the 2nd business day after I made the request. I'm certain they waited until that moment to execute the trade because legally, they can.
Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by fallingfrog on Monday July 30, 2018 @04:11PM (#17647576)
Fidelity is a cheap provider?
Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by JumpCrisscross on Monday July 30, 2018 @04:55PM (#17647937)
> Fidelity is a cheap provider?

No, but they have different tiers of service. In my account, for example, I can sell and purchase intraday. They do what they do for my personal account, which is credit the cash intraday. TL; DR This is not a legal, but contractual, requirement.

Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by mi100hael on Monday July 30, 2018 @08:25PM (#17649526)
It's a legal requirement to some extent unless you have a margin account. Funds take two days to settle. If you sell, buy, and sell again within two days, your account can be suspended for violating SEC rules.

https://www.ally.com/do-it-right/investing/what-are-unsettle...

Re:What Economists Still Don’t Get About the 2008 Crisis by fallingfrog on Monday July 30, 2018 @07:08PM (#17649024)
I see! Good to know. Still, I'm inclined to believe that more people are in my tier of service than are in yours.