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Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by BurningFrog on Thursday July 26, 2018 @11:17PM (#17623202)
The benefit of a company cafeteria is mostly that you don't lose half an hour walking to a restaurant, waiting in line, ordering etc.

It's not about the money.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by a5seo on Thursday July 26, 2018 @11:39PM (#17623272)
This. This is the giant disconnect between muni govnerment planners and tech.

They literally cannot fathom that people in tech are trying to squeeze the most from every minute in the day.

Just. Do. Not. Get. It.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by B1FF_PSUVM on Friday July 27, 2018 @04:24AM (#17624397)
> squeeze the most from every minute

Don't do that. It hurts. You.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by isostatic on Friday July 27, 2018 @05:09AM (#17624584)
On a good day, I work about 5 hours a day. That's non stop, from about 10.30 until about 4pm, or from about 3pm to 8pm.

If I stop for lunch, I stop, and don't get back into it.

So I eat lunch at my desk. It's not bad for me. 10 hour days to accomplish half the work is bad.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by pas on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:31AM (#17625163)
Why not just skip eating for those hours? Digestion disturbs brain activity anyway.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by afarrell on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:51AM (#17625264)
Because it is hard to be effective at work when you are hungry
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by cynic_ on Friday July 27, 2018 @09:35AM (#17625827)
If you stop eating at a certain period every day, you'll stop feeling hungry.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by isostatic on Friday July 27, 2018 @10:05AM (#17626022)
Sometimes I'll get into 'productive' first thing, at 10amish. Other times it takes a few hours, so it's random.

Once I get into productive mode I'd rather not get out of it until I'm finished, and leaving my desk for more than a few minutes, or having to concentrate of complex tasks like talking to someone at a counter, is sure to do that.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by afarrell on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @01:49PM (#17655311)
you might stop feeling hungry, but you'll then get mysterious headaches or a sense of confusion and frustration you can't identify.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by pas on Friday July 27, 2018 @01:14PM (#17627466)
Eat a lot before? 5 hours seems like very doable without hunger.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by zerr on Friday July 27, 2018 @05:19AM (#17624638)
You can split the work and do the rest next day, there is no rush, really.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by dantheman on Friday July 27, 2018 @06:05AM (#17624817)
There is rush. Tell that to people who die because medical technology is delayed years. Or companies that fail or never materialize because the products take too long to produce and are too expensive.

Tell that to the farmer who's crops go bad.

Not everything is the same.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by JetSpiegel on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:13AM (#17625078)
FAANG companies don't do any of those things.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by zerr on Friday July 27, 2018 @06:33AM (#17624919)
But dying with overworking, depression and burnout is not a solution I believe.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by pas on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:30AM (#17625158)
5 hours a day doesn't sound like overworking.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by isostatic on Friday July 27, 2018 @10:07AM (#17626031)
While I'd love to only work 2 hours a day, it's not really feasible.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by Ntrails on Friday July 27, 2018 @04:31AM (#17624435)
> The benefit of a company cafeteria is mostly that you don't lose half an hour walking to a restaurant, waiting in line, ordering etc.

Instead you can spend that time being both grateful and productive

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by misja111 on Friday July 27, 2018 @03:15AM (#17624071)
You can order by phone or online in advance so you only have to walk to the restaurant to pick up your food. Maybe you don't like the walking, but then think again: it has been shown many times that some physical movement during the working day is beneficial for your productivity and health.

If you really want to avoid leaving the building at all costs, there is also another option: ordering your lunch and let it be delivered.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by icebraining on Friday July 27, 2018 @04:02AM (#17624301)
Why are you assuming there even are restaurants near the office? A bunch of people getting into their cars and clogging up roads at lunch time doesn't sound like an improvement to me.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by falsedan on Friday July 27, 2018 @05:57AM (#17624786)
We’re talking about SF, so unless your office is in Bayview/Visitacion/deep Outer Sunset|Richmond there’s a restaurant within 15 minutes walk
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by flyingfences on Friday July 27, 2018 @08:43AM (#17625504)
> within 15 minutes walk

So, a half-hour round trip.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by falsedan on Monday July 30, 2018 @07:12AM (#17643606)
Yes, assuming a standard stride length of 0.7 metres and favourable traffic conditions, each lunch attendee could be expected to achieve 2900 steps. If travelling as a group there could be a minor social interaction every 4-10 steps thus leading to over 700 conversational actions which may help build camaraderie, strengthening team bonds and inproving the overall efficiency of the team.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by zerr on Friday July 27, 2018 @05:18AM (#17624631)
But is not it really a one hour break? Besides eating, shouldn't you rest a bit during a day? I guess companies with onsite cafeterias trying to squeeze every minute from their employees.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @06:32AM (#17624915)
Yes, it's not about the money. It's about slavery. Tech giants want their workers to spend as much time as possible near their working places. Even during their lunch time when people are supposed to get some rest from their jobs, walk to the nearby restaurant, maybe meet some new people instead of those faces they see every f'ng day. NO! Facebook, etc. don't allow any distraction. They wrap slavery in shiny candies and give it to employees who are so happy that they are bragging about sushi, whatever to instagram. The new regulations are going to break that and that's perfect!
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by Zak on Friday July 27, 2018 @06:53AM (#17624992)
I've read a number of definitions of slavery coming from a variety of political perspectives. Some go so far as to term hiring anyone who isn't independently wealthy to work for wages "slavery".

None of them included giving employees perks in the hope that it will increase their productivity.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:12AM (#17625076)
They definitely want to increase your productivity, you are right. Your productivity drives their revenue forward. They are willing to contribute small amount of that revenue for giving you free food. But do you really want to be like that? Work harder for free food?
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by Zak on Friday July 27, 2018 @08:26AM (#17625431)
I don't think the purpose of free food is to incentivize employees to work harder. It's to let employees have lunch in the office without having to leave. As mentioned several times in the comments here, employees at companies that provide this option tend to like it.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @09:21AM (#17625746)
it is to make employees have lunch in the office without letting them leave.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by hueving on Friday July 27, 2018 @11:25AM (#17626642)
None of these tech companies make anyone eat the lunch and they certainly let employees leave. Do some research before posting.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @02:28PM (#17628024)
Indeed they don't lock employees inside the building. Indeed it's far from slavery. It's wrong word. Rather it's exploiting of employees by using cheap tricks.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by JetSpiegel on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:11AM (#17625071)
> giving employees perks in the hope that it will increase their productivity

By "their", you mean the company? Because employees receive the same salary no matter their productivity.

Slavers also fed their slaves, property requires upkeep costs.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by adventured on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:21AM (#17625116)
> Because employees receive the same salary no matter their productivity.

No, in fact they typically do not. Drop your productivity to zero and see how your salary holds up.

Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by Dylan16807 on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:16AM (#17625093)
If I waste less time at lunch, I can go home earlier. That's pretty far from slavery.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @07:21AM (#17625122)
This is what I do. I spend negligible amount of time for lunch by bringing the food from home, quickly microwaving it, eating as quickly as possible. But, I am pretty sure that free food takes much longer. You want to try this sushi and that fried ice-cream..oh wait and Philz Coffee offers new beans..there are also your co-workers around and you chat with them endlessly.
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by BurningFrog on Friday July 27, 2018 @10:43AM (#17626299)
What words would you have left if you ever encountered real slavery?
Re:Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at tech co... by sAbakumoff on Friday July 27, 2018 @02:28PM (#17628030)
yes, wrong word, should have been used "exploiting" instead.