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Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by untog on Thursday July 26, 2018 @05:36AM (#17616169)
jQuery to me is like riding a bike with training wheels attached after you've been riding for ten years. You don't need them, but unless you try taking them off you'll never know that.

Browser incompatibilities are basically a non-issue these days for 95% of projects. Animations etc are far better done with CSS than jQuery (particularly when it comes to hardware acceleration). The Fetch API works in every browser. So on and so forth.

I think the OP wasn't suggesting that "managing" without jQuery is difficult. Certainly, I can say that I haven't touched jQuery in years and haven't looked back once. There's nothing I miss.

Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by emsy on Thursday July 26, 2018 @08:37AM (#17616924)
> jQuery to me is like riding a bike with training wheels attached after you've been riding for ten years. You don't need them, but unless you try taking them off you'll never know that.

Why even use wheels when you can reinvent them? I'm not saying there are no reasons to go "bare metal", but satisfying your developer ego is not one of them. Unless you need every inch of performance or control, jQuery (or alternatives) is probably the more reasonable choice.

Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by untog on Thursday July 26, 2018 @09:33AM (#17617308)
Why would it be the reasonable choice when it was created to solve a problem that largely doesn't exist any more?

jQuery wouldn't be created today in anything like its current form. It still lives on largely because of inertia. Using the APIs provided by the browser is in no way reinventing the wheel!

Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by hatchnyc on Thursday July 26, 2018 @12:29PM (#17618705)
There is now a whole generation of FE developers for whom "JavaScript" is synonymous with "JQuery", as evidenced by endless questions on StackOverflow which use the terms interchangeable.
Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by EB66 on Thursday July 26, 2018 @03:24PM (#17620186)
I agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly.

A lot of the commenters here have a very old school view of jQuery. They seem to believe that if you're using jQuery, then you must also be employing manual DOM manipulations, manual state management, etc.

You can implement modern component-ized front-end architecture while still using jQuery. My company built an in-house front-end framework heavily inspired by React and Vue. But instead of abstracting away from the DOM, we've embraced the DOM by utilizing DocumentFragments for highly performant rendering. When our components render, they return regular ole HTMLElements.

The components built using our framework work with or without jQuery. No manual DOM manipulations, one-way data binding, sane state management, templating, child components, state triggers, etc. A lot of us use jQuery simply because we prefer it's compact and expressive syntax.

Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by snarkyturtle on Thursday July 26, 2018 @10:52AM (#17617928)
Because the wheels are proprietary and full of quirks. For instance, $('.foo') returns an array of jquery objects and not HTMLElements that you can act directly upon using the standard API that was made for replacing it.
Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by mariusmg on Thursday July 26, 2018 @07:50AM (#17616686)
>The Fetch API works in every browser

As long as you're using recent versions. The whole point of jQuery is that you can write some code and be sure that it will run correctly in older versions of the browsers.

Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by blauditore on Thursday July 26, 2018 @08:02AM (#17616755)
That's not the whole point of jQuery, it's just one advantage.
Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by snarkyturtle on Thursday July 26, 2018 @10:48AM (#17617895)
Well XMLHttpRequest has support going back to IE7.
Re:Removing jQuery from GitHub.com frontend by badthingfactory on Thursday July 26, 2018 @08:54AM (#17617024)
> The Fetch API works in every browser.

No it doesn't.