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Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by TeMPOraL on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @12:57PM (#17610776)
Point is, this is one of but many causes of diseases jointly classified as "cancer". Cancers share similarities in their (visible) method of action, but they have very different causes. There isn't going to be a single cure for "cancer".
Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by robotrout on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @01:04PM (#17610850)
Yes, there are many causes. We are in violent agreement. If you focus on the causes, you are preventing cancer, not curing it. You are playing whack-a-mole.
Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by bordercases on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @01:09PM (#17610897)
LOL Seems more cost efficient long run to address lifestyle than deal with proximal consequence
Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by fucking_tragedy on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @01:52PM (#17611259)
The thing about cancer is that you can live a perfect lifestyle and still have it ravage your body.
Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by newnewpdro on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @02:02PM (#17611346)
The reality is there's no escaping the causes for cancer, many of which are environmental and increasing. No amount of lifestyle change is going to eliminate the growing number of carcinogens present throughout our air, food, and water.
Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by robotrout on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @01:22PM (#17611017)
OK. You tell your mom that, after she's gotten cancer, asshole. How did her lifestyle cause her cancer in her ovaries (another inflammation caused cancer), I wonder?

While you're chastising your mom for her lifestyle, the rest of us will be looking/hoping for a cure.

You should know that even you will experience increased and chronic inflammation as you age, no matter how much better than your mom, your lifestyle is. Increased chronic inflammation and aging are linked and we're still trying to understand why.

Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by dang on Friday July 27, 2018 @03:37AM (#17624177)
> You tell your mom that, after she's gotten cancer, asshole.

Posting like this is a bannable offense. I'm not going to ban you for this because it's clearly a personal topic, but if you post like this again, we will. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules from now on.

Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by bordercases on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @03:08PM (#17611930)
My mother did get breast cancer and it went into remission partially by increasing the quality of her lifestyle during and after treatment, as mandated by a pilot study she went through to help assess such an intervention. The lifestyle change was more extreme than what we would have considered necessary before her cancer, but doing cardiovascular exercise every day is already known as having an influence on bodily inflammation. Yes chemotherapy was involved but we are speaking of where the next span of marginal investment would have to go to make the highest impact.

At the individual level finding a cure would be great, and during late-stage we would definitely want to understand how to have more successful treatments, but to remove the long-term load of the cancer problem on the medical system would mean better environmental and lifestyle interventions which act at a level of root cause instead of proximal treatment. If anything maybe we would find common ground have having cheaper diagnostics so that we could find more motivation to engage in preventative measures concretely rather than as a catch all.

Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by robotrout on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:41PM (#17613925)
Nice that your mom got better with her breast cancer. I'm sure you know that a lot of breast cancer "survivors" are victims of an over hyped mammogram screening that calls any lump, no matter how slow growing, "cancer". Whether that's what your mom had or not, it's still scary though. [1]

My mom died of ovarian cancer after living a lifestyle that even you would approve of. Victim shaming pisses me off.

Shaming the victim with this lifestyle bullshit is not productive, and neither is minimizing people who actually search for cures rather than preaching lifestyle.

[1] https://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g366

Re:Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars by monadgonad on Thursday July 26, 2018 @02:05AM (#17615362)
> Victim shaming pisses me off.

Yet you’re going right ahead and assuming that someone else’s experience is not _real_ cancer because they survived it and your mom didn’t? You really don’t have the right to be calling anyone else an asshole.

> and neither is minimizing people who actually search for cures rather than preaching lifestyle.

It seems like your feelings about your mom are preventing you from thinking objectively about this. Lifestyle can be a cure as well as a preventative, an extremely effective one, but that’s often overlooked because it’s easier and more profitable to get someone to take pills than it is for them to change all their dietary and exercise habits. Attitudes like yours, that say it’s wrong to call it anyone’s fault, really don’t help.