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Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by zwaps on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:14AM (#17608136)
yeah so I just reinstalled Zotero and imported my Mendeley library.

It does that, and it can actually look up metadata from pdfs. But: It can NOT update already existing entries from such a lookup. You have to delete the pdf and re-import. Why? No reason.

It's this sort of really bad usability decision that makes Zotero just not very good imo.

Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by dstillman on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:42AM (#17608487)
It's not a usability decision — it's just one feature that hasn't yet been implemented [1]. Updating metadata is more complicated than creating a new item, because you have to deal with the existing metadata somehow. (Mendeley just overwrites the existing item, often with incorrect data, which we don't consider acceptable.)

Disclosure: Zotero developer

[1] https://github.com/zotero/zotero/issues/1515

Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by hyeonwho4 on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @11:34AM (#17610052)
I really love the "duplicate finder" and its ability to pick and choose metadata to keep. Perhaps just create a duplicate item and deal with merge conflicts later?
Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by tonyg on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:21AM (#17608160)
I'm not sure what feature exactly you're missing, but are you aware of the "Rename file from parent metadata" option you get when right clicking on a PDF in the list? Perhaps that does what you need.

If not, with Zotero you have a chance of getting a missing feature added. Not so with the closed-source Mendeley. Especially now they have started doing user-hostile lock-in stuff like gratuitously encrypting users' data, making it no longer accessible to the user (see downthread).

With Zotero, in principle you could hack together something using `bash` and `sqlite3` that batch-updated documents; you may not even need to look at the source code to the official app. It's ad-hoc munging like that that Mendeley has recently gone out of its way to prevent, stopping people from working effectively with their own data.

Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by zwaps on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:27AM (#17608422)
Zotero can look up metadata if you add a PDF to your library

Zotero can not update metadata for a PDF you already have in your library

Hence, adding an existing library means you have to do it manually for each pdf This is bad design, because the functionality exists, but it's implemented in a way that makes everything complicated for no reason at all.

Why disable the "lookup metadata" button for a pdf which is already in a library? WHYYYYY

Re:Zotero: An open-source tool to help collect, organize, ci... by tonyg on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:40AM (#17608474)
I see! Yes, that's not great.