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Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by y0ghur7_xxx on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @05:59AM (#17608090)
> Parent comment was talking about routers and network printers. No CA (except for if you're your own CA) would provision a certificate for "192.168.0.1" or "hp-laserjet".

hp could get a cert for 15327c5ba80d1b8933.hp.com and make it resolve to 192.168.0.5 (your printer).

Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by stephengillie on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:33AM (#17608210)
What if someone else uses 192.168.0.5 for their printer too? This just seems incredibly insecure, where I'll have to keep a public record of the private addresses of my devices. Welcome to the Fishbowl.
Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by fulafel on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:59AM (#17608575)
Yes, RFC1918 addresses are ambiguous, and generally they have this problem, independent of using DNS. You should use IPv6 if you can.

But now you are running TLS, so the address conflict would just yield a cert error. (If the other guy plugged his network or printer into yours, that is)

Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by stephengillie on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @11:01AM (#17609784)
Yes, I'm running TLS behind my NAT, where unsecured traffic should be safe. Or should we be using VPN tunnels within our private networks?

And at the same time, I've introduced an internet connection dependency and a 3rd party dependency. What happens when they decide to stop updating that cert, to save money?

Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by fulafel on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @12:33PM (#17610533)
You shouldn't treat a SOHO or home network, NAT or not, as secure. There are good reasons why we don't trust the network. Getting compromised is not an "if", it's a "when".
Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by colejohnson66 on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:20AM (#17608152)
But then what about when the printer’s IP address changes because it’s dynamic?
Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by dspillett on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:35AM (#17608221)
ddns?

Or use addresses like https://192-168-1-1.hp.net (https://192-168-43-123.hp.net, https://10-20-30-40.hp.net, and so on) and a wildcard cert. No harder to document than telling people to go to http://192.168.1.1.

Though they should be more careful than to use to top-level domain as they need to include the private key in the device unless they have the devices call out to have a new certificate generated, perhaps 192-168-1-1.internaldevices.hp.net and so forth.

Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by nsgi on Thursday July 26, 2018 @02:35PM (#17619737)
It would be necessary to use a different private key on each device for it to be secure, so something like 192-168-1-1.internaldevices1489420.hp.net
Re:Chrome 68 Released: HTTP Sites Marked as “Not Secure” by fulafel on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @08:01AM (#17608580)
DNS got fixed to handle dynamic updates in the early 2000's.