British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to Police

Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by djrogers on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:13PM (#17596061)

I don’t mean for this to sound callous, but 49 people over 3 years seems like a fairly small number, and I can’t think of any realistic solution to this that wouldn’t involve stripping someone of their rights based solely on the fact that they were ‘reported to the police’.

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by kelnage on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:21PM (#17596129)

Based on previous recorded homicide rates in the U.K. [1], 49 women over three years equates to about 10% of homicides committed against women. As a proportion, that does not seem such a small number to me.

1. https://www.ons.gov.uk/generator?uri=/peoplepopulationandcom...

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by DanBC on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:18PM (#17596107)

No-one is asking for people to be stripped of their rights based on a single report to police.

They're asking for better enforcement of non-contact orders (which are granted by judges, in court), especially in cases where the person already has a conviction for violence.

49 is a small number, but these are all preventable deaths and they're all a result of a system that fails to protect victims of domestic violence.

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by djrogers on Thursday July 26, 2018 @11:16AM (#17618106)

Nothing in the article indicates any non-contact orders were issued or violated here - I think you’re reading in to this

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by btilly on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:14PM (#17596074)

The numbers would have seen significant improvement if they merely took seriously, "reported to police and has a prior conviction on the books".

Would that be too tall an order for you?

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by lazyasciiart on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:22PM (#17596138)

Reported to the police for a crime. Stalking and threatening someone is a crime. All the police need to do is actually follow up and charge people who commit crimes and get reported to them, which is not exactly stripping people of their rights.

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Re:British Women Killed by Men They Previously Reported to P... by mieseratte on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:30PM (#17596205)

> Reported to the police for a crime. Stalking and threatening someone is a crime.

Outsider Question: Does the UK operate on presumed guilt or presumed innocence?

If the latter, what options do the police have? In the US, although state-by-state, we have options ranging from "The accused automatically is arrested / sent before a judge" to "temporary restraining order, and at least one party must vacate the premises" to "nothing."

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