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Re:What if people were paid for their data? by vasco on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:01PM (#17595964)
I've had this idea in the bucket of "crazy things I'll never do" which is similar to this, half art-piece, half serious:

- Users sign up to an ad network and they insert all information about themselves, the more, the better.

- They are periodically prompted to add or update their data (like facebook asking you if you're still living in the same city).

- An adblock-like browser extension, replaces all ads they see with the own network's ads, which are highly targeted, and hence get much more money than regular ads for the ad network.

- The ad network is setup as a non-profit foundation which pipes all the revenue into donations to institutions doing work related to privacy initiatives (EFF and similar).

- Users are shown how much money their willingful lack of privacy has generated for privacy initiatives.

It's a play on using the argument of "I have nothing to hide" in order to advance actual privacy legislation and protections. If someone builds this, I'd sign up and use it.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by Hello71 on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:12PM (#17596048)
This is pretty similar to the Brave browser model, except that Brave sells your browser history instead of asking you about your information.
Re:What if people were paid for their data? by csharp on Monday July 23, 2018 @09:47PM (#17597507)
Brave definitely does not sell your browsing history. In fact, they don't even have the ability to access it...
Re:What if people were paid for their data? by Hello71 on Thursday July 26, 2018 @08:07AM (#17616774)
> Brave definitely does not sell your browsing history

This might be true.

> In fact, they don't even have the ability to access it...

This is clearly false on the face of it. Obviously the browser has access to the browsing history.

Brave claims on https://brave.com/hc-privacy/ that "When Brave Ads launches later this year, all personal data and browsing history will remain on-device and will not be transmitted to Brave or anyone else.". This implies that they will use personal data and browsing history, but attempt to anonymize it in some unspecified manner before selling it. Of course, as Netflix can attest, this is much harder than it sounds, and I highly doubt that Brave is up to the task.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by cortesoft on Monday July 23, 2018 @06:00PM (#17596379)
Yeah, they did this in the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllAdvantage

My buddy's brother worked for them, and we each made a couple hundred bucks before it went out of business.

Tl;dr people gamed the system to make a ton of money, and advertisers realized people weren't actually looking at or clicking the ads.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by Hello71 on Monday July 23, 2018 @07:33PM (#17596916)
This is different though, because the user themselves does not get a portion of the income. In fact, click fraud is much less likely with this idea than with current web advertising, because with current web advertising, site owners are incentivized to click on their own ads to generate profit. Under this model, EFF would have to go pretend to be other people and click on everybody else's ads, a pretty long con.
Re:What if people were paid for their data? by ramblerman on Thursday July 26, 2018 @04:29AM (#17615935)
> Users sign up to an ad network and they insert all information about themselves, the more, the better.

What people think they like, and how they behave don't always correlate. Especially when it comes to spending money.

Data gathered measuring actual user behavior will always be miles ahead of filled in questionnaires.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by tjoff on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:17PM (#17596099)
Actually, the privacy is vastly improved compared to all the tracking required at a half-ass attempt at reaching that same info.

Also it is information the user voluntarily gives up which is also a big difference.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by beambot on Monday July 23, 2018 @06:47PM (#17596653)
A decentralized trust system for financial value transfer. Sounds a lot like a cryptocurrency application to me.
Re:What if people were paid for their data? by trunamp on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:41PM (#17596262)
> An adblock-like browser extension, replaces all ads they see with the own network's ads, which are highly targeted, and hence get much more money than regular ads for the ad network.

That's all fun and games, as long as you realize that all browser-extensions capture your keypresses, all data on all pages, and et cetera. All browser extensions see everything you do, and everything you type, and et cetera.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by SquareWheel on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:56PM (#17596354)
What a bunch of fear-mongering...

Browser extensions are subject to a permissions system, just like apps. Their code is also fully visible to you, and fully sandboxed.

The only real danger to extensions right now is that they can auto-update without a user review, and thus can "turn evil". It's happened to a handful of popular extensions (eg. Stylish).

Requiring the user to manually update extensions has its own share of problems though, so I'm not even sure if I disagree with browsers makers decision to auto-update.

But the claim that "all extensions are keyloggers" is just blatant nonsense.

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by scarface74 on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:53PM (#17596342)
Not necessarily...

Ad blockers for iOS don't capture any data. They work by creating a JSON file that is processed by Safari to tell which patterns to block.

https://www.infoq.com/articles/safari-content-blockers

Re:What if people were paid for their data? by jarfil on Monday July 23, 2018 @06:28PM (#17596543)
This isn't 2010 anymore, WebExtensions depend on permissions given by the user, and while this still could be improved, it is no longer a "free for all" like it used to be.
Re:What if people were paid for their data? by ryanseys on Monday July 23, 2018 @05:45PM (#17596295)
No they don't.
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Re:What if people were paid for their data? by ionised on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @06:17AM (#17599616)
Please don't open new accounts just to reply to your own misinformed comments.