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Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by nkrisc on Monday July 23, 2018 @12:46PM (#17593927)
That's an interesting approach. Where did the water come from? Surely they weren't storing it as H20 on the ship? Seems like you'd only want to keep as much as needed for life support in that state. Stored as separate oxygen and hydrogen?
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by djrogers on Monday July 23, 2018 @12:49PM (#17593948)
> Surely they weren't storing it as H20 on the ship?

Why not? It's not as if water is flammable, toxic, or highly corrosive - attributes most other fuel sources do have at least one of.

Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by scott-smith_us on Monday July 23, 2018 @01:23PM (#17594212)
You have to have water storage if you've got people on board. I'd rather have one system that stores both fuel and life-support than have to have two separate systems and then guess exactly what proportions of both I'll need...
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by King-Aaron on Monday July 23, 2018 @10:17PM (#17597642)
Water storage could also be used as a way to mitigate the radiation problem in space. If you had a 'sleeve' inside the hull that contained water, you'd have both a large storage capacity for fuel as well as inbuilt radiation shielding?

(*Note, I am not an engineer)

Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by lpaone on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @03:43PM (#17604278)
I have a friend studying radiology with the hopes of working in the space industry. From what he tells me, I believe this would work.
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by scrumper on Monday July 23, 2018 @01:35PM (#17594311)
Why would you want to store your propellant water separately as O2 and H rather than as water? You'd have to react it to turn it into water, water is pretty inert, there's no mass advantage (more of a problem than volume). What am I missing?
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by nkrisc on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:40PM (#17594810)
I was thinking of volume, but if the craft doesn't need to ever be in an atmosphere then that wouldn't be an issue as I had first thought.
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by pavel_lishin on Monday July 23, 2018 @04:31PM (#17595719)
A bigger volume might even be an advantage - easier to turn your ship if you can mount engines far from the center of mass. Plus, built in shielding.
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by pavel_lishin on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:30PM (#17594720)
> Where did the water come from?

Good question! His story "The Martian Way" addresses this. I don't really want to spoil it from you, but basically: where you'd expect.

> Surely they weren't storing it as H20 on the ship?

Why not? It's stable, it's useful for other reasons, and when you've got free energy and easy propulsion, there's no reason not to. (There probably would be some issues with sloshing, actually, but he didn't get into it. Asimov wrote a lot of stories that could be considered Hard Science, but I don't think he'd consider himself an engineer.)

Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by nkrisc on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:39PM (#17594802)
Fair enough, it is just fiction after all. I was thinking that storing it as H20 would be a challenge as storing all the water you might need would take a large amount of space. But I suppose if it was for a craft that would never enter an atmosphere the volume wouldn't really be an issue.
Re:Propelling deep space flight with new fuel source, Moment... by dmreedy on Monday July 23, 2018 @01:20PM (#17594190)
Without revealing too much (and possibly this qualifies as spoilers anyway), in Seveneves (Stephenson, not Asimov), it is a comet that, in a sense, 'becomes' the ship.