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Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by dkoubsky on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:23PM (#17571506)
I don't see why a CAD file would be any different than normal instructions for building firearms. For example, building a 12 gauge shotgun from 1" and 3/4" steel pipe is cheaper, easier, and probably safer/more effective than the plastic gun from the article. It seems to me the 3D printing part of this made the article popular for clickbait and thus it garnered more attention than the traditional approaches to homemade weapons. I guess my point is that making a CAD file illegal when a PDF instruction file is legal isn't very consistent or logical.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by toomanybeersies on Thursday July 19, 2018 @10:27PM (#17571993)
You can even legally buy copies of the U.S. Army Improvised Munitions Handbook [1], which includes instructions on creating improvised firearms and other weaponry.

The moral panic about 3d printed weapons is complete nonsense. It's been trivial to make firearms out of hardware store and few practical skills. Back in high school we even made little black powder cannons in the metal shop, raiding fireworks for their powder and fuse and using ball bearings as the shot.

You don't even need steel pipe to make a shotgun, they're low enough pressure that for some types of shot you can even use copper pipe.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Field-Manual-Survival-Evasion-Recover...

Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by ThefinalResult on Friday July 20, 2018 @11:44AM (#17575941)
P.S. I think this is the link you were talking about

https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/improvise...

Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by em3rgent0rdr on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:26PM (#17572205)
But I think should admit that open-source 3D-printing/CNC does makes it even easier and harder to stop.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by Doxin on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:21AM (#17573306)
No it doesn't. Have you ever used a hobby level 3d printer or cnc? Easy isn't the word I would use to describe the process.

What does harder to stop even mean?

Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by ThefinalResult on Friday July 20, 2018 @11:42AM (#17575924)
I can just imagine crooks struggling to use a 3d printer lmao
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by tantalor on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:33PM (#17572222)
Scalable, too
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by test6554 on Friday July 20, 2018 @01:04AM (#17572617)
I know what you meant, but my mind jumped straight to tiny guns.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by meowface on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:58PM (#17571669)
One concern is that it's now cheaper, easier, and faster to mass produce weapons which will evade metal detectors. I don't think any of this should be illegal, but the concerns should be considered.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by LyndsySimon on Thursday July 19, 2018 @09:51PM (#17571863)
It’s still illegal to do it, and if you’re making a run of them you’d use a mill, not a 3D printer.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by asfasgasg on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:24PM (#17572195)
The saving grace, such as it is, is that these firearms are single-shot, and the rounds themselves are still metal and explosive-residue-detectable. While 3D printing has changed manufacturing methods, it's not like the method of deposition changes the strength of the material that much, so it's improbable that these plastic firearms will ever be able to withstand more than one or two shots.

It strikes me as likely that a 3D-printed gun will not be the most effective way to accomplish almost any kind of harm for almost any kind of perpetrator, no matter how situated. And that gives me a little comfort, even if I wish my countrymen were less fascinated with weapons.

Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by em3rgent0rdr on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:27PM (#17572207)
The 3-D printed guns are single shot, but the new ghost gunner machine is a CNC mill and I believe uses an aluminum alloy which can handle multiple shots.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by maxerickson on Friday July 20, 2018 @06:41AM (#17573880)
The ghost gunner is used to finish metal parts that are fully functional, they will last for thousands of shots.

But they also won't pass metal detectors.

Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by kall1sto on Friday July 20, 2018 @06:33AM (#17573844)
it should be illegal.
Re:Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting ... by bsder on Thursday July 19, 2018 @09:10PM (#17571719)
> For example, building a 12 gauge shotgun from 1" and 3/4" steel pipe is cheaper, easier, and probably safer/more effective than the plastic gun from the article.

Guns made from metal stock will probably always be more reliable and cheaper than plastic ones.

The issue is that a disposable plastic handgun is less detectable and will leave no useful evidence behind as it can simply be discarded at the crime scene.

(Of course, that's probably hogwash as a plastic feedstock capable of being a gun is probably going to be equally as traceable.)