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Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by mgleason_3 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:35PM (#17568634)
In my experience, Best Buy’s return policy and process has been awful. Granted it’s been years because it was so bad. Literally the worst of any store I’ve ever shopped at.

Last time I bought a router from them it was defective. I had to stand in line for over an hour. The clerk was surly and didn’t believe it was defective. Kept opening the box, pulling everything out, looking at all the pieces. Putting it all back. Over and over.

Then he didn’t said he couldn’t accept it because the receipt was ripped - which it was when the check-out person ripped it out of the register. He said they could take it back, but I wouldn’t be able to make any other returns.

I ended up asking for the manager who took another 15 minutes to arrive, argue and get it sorted.

The return took almost 2 hours. Absolutely crazy.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by WaltPurvis on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:57PM (#17568807)
Counterdote: I recently purchased a monitor at Best Buy, decided after a couple weeks I didn't like it (for a variety of reasons), and returned it without hassle. Just walked up to the counter, handed them my receipt, told them I didn't like it, and they handed me money. Took less than five minutes.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by malnourish on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:13PM (#17568942)
Not to continue this too far but ditto. Completely fine return experience. I also don't have to worry about fakes nearly as much at brick & mortar stores. That said I still use Amazon extensively, for better or for worse.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by gamblor956 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:18PM (#17568976)
I exchanged an item at Best Buy about 2 months ago. Took about 5 minutes. Forgot my receipt, but they were able to find it with my cc. They opened up the box to make sure the original items were inside, and brought me a replacement while I was at the counter.

Still not quite as good as Costco or REI, but at least with BB I know I'm getting the good I actually purchased and not some cheap Chinese knockoff.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by widowlark on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:35PM (#17569129)
Where are people getting all these chinese knock offs? I have never had this happen on Amazon I am curious what products people are getting
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by 394549 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:05PM (#17570251)
> Where are people getting all these chinese knock offs? I have never had this happen on Amazon I am curious what products people are getting

Here's a 1 TB microSD card [1]. No such product legitimately exists [2], so it must be a data-destroying counterfeit.

4.5 stars, $80.

That one was easy to spot, but it's my understanding that pretty much every MacBook charger on Amazon is a kock-off counterfeit [3]. They get the case perfect, but the electronics inside are a fire hazard [4].

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Wazzey-Micro-Memory-Adapter-1024GB/dp...

[2] https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/31/16232618/s...

[3] http://www.businessinsider.com/majority-apple-accessories-am...

[4] http://www.righto.com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surpr...

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by baddox on Friday July 20, 2018 @12:26AM (#17572450)
> This item is only available from third-party sellers.

I know that it’s not fair to expect customers to distinguish between legit and shady listings, but I consider this effectively a “do not buy this product” warning.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by losteric on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:03PM (#17569346)
What have you done to verify you never received a knock-off?

I checked every one of my SD cards when I learned about Amazon's problem with fakes... Turns out I'd bought two fake SanDisk cards. They looked and worked like the real ones but the serial numbers were invalid. Maybe they'd continue working fine, or maybe one day I'd lose 64GB of photos in the middle of a vacation... who knows?

Needless to say, that destroyed my in Amazon. How can they guarantee they aren't selling malicious IOT devices, counterfeit healthcare products, cheap kitchenware made of toxic materials, or even the products of slave labor?

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by csdreamer7 on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:52AM (#17573000)
Was it shipped and sold by Amazon or by a 3rd party?
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by hellojason on Friday July 20, 2018 @07:48AM (#17574200)
This has been the secret in my experience. Pay for Prime, and only buy Prime items. For me the convenience is worth it, even though I know I’m feeding directly into what Amazon wants; to not fix their massive counterfeit problem.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by ardy42 on Friday July 20, 2018 @09:46AM (#17574919)
> This has been the secret in my experience. Pay for Prime, and only buy Prime items. For me the convenience is worth it, even though I know I’m feeding directly into what Amazon wants; to not fix their massive counterfeit problem.

That won't really help. There are prime-eligible counterfeits shipped from Amazon's warehouses due to the Fulfilled by Amazon program. Even buying from a known trustworthy seller is not enough, as Amazon commingles FBA/Prime-eligible inventory from multiple sellers of the same item:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/on-amazon-pooled-merchandise-op...

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by hellojason on Saturday July 21, 2018 @01:00PM (#17582665)
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by losteric on Friday July 20, 2018 @12:18PM (#17576346)
Fulfilled by Amazon, from one of their 3rd party sellers.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by gamblor956 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @07:43PM (#17571339)
Lower-cost electronics, mostly, and toys. So: memory cards, USB and power cables, batteries, etc. That's all stuff I now buy at Best Buy. I've purchased my last 3 TVs from Best Buy; and generally any purchase that I need to play with before fulling the trigger, like cameras.

Also: anything food-related that's by a major brand (like Oxo or Rubbermaid) I buy from a local store, as a lot of the Chinese Alibrands don't comply with FDA requirements but are advertised as if they were.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by x0x0 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @10:33PM (#17572016)
I told this story before, but I got a charger with a fake Intertek (an UL competitor) mark. Intertek had an alert on their site that this company just put their mark on a product. I told amazon cs and they refunded my money... but continued to sell the fraudulent product.

This was 2+ years ago and the last thing I will ever buy on amazon that uses electricity.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by smsm42 on Saturday July 28, 2018 @06:36PM (#17635420)
> Then he didn’t said he couldn’t accept it because the receipt was ripped. He said they could take it back, but I wouldn’t be able to make any other returns.

Looks like somebody being told by the manager not to accept returns or over return quota or something. Something shady definitely going on there... I never had such experience with local BB store, but I guess it depends a lot on local management.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by windexh8er on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:34PM (#17571554)
This. While Best Buy can be convenient in a pinch the company, in terms of after-purchase-support is a joke. Case in point I ordered a washer/dryer set from them a couple months ago. Overall it saved about $50 but I felt like I was helping a local company as Best Buy HQ is here. Never again. Not only did they not show up with my delivery 3 times they had the nerve to show up over 90 minutes late the delivery day and had excuse after excuse after excuse. The moved me between two different escalation support people (out of TX) because of the first misstep and never provided me an easy path to contact anyone directly in the process. On top of all that ordering on .com means anyone local is 100% useless. I emailed the Best Buy CEO spam inbox and ended up negotiating $250 back after they ended up wasting well over 16 hours of my personal time waiting on no-shows and on the phone. I won't spend another dime with them after the Geek Squad manager who came out on delivery day as a "premium convenience to make sure everything went smoothly" drove back and forth in front of my house for an hour because he clearly knew the delivery was, yet again, late and he didn't acknowledge or apologize for the failure to deliver as promised. When I called him out on it he flat out lied to me. Best Buy seems to be a lot of internally segmented groups, none of which are empowered to solve a customer problem.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by pteredactyl on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:45PM (#17571606)
Hmm I had a great experience last week in San Francisco.

Took 10 minutes. And even though I returned the opened XBox controller a few days after their return window, they gave me store credit.

I was a happy customer.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by chillwaves on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:27PM (#17569502)
I just charge back.

They screwed me over on a price match and I ended up getting the whole thing charged back.

BestBuy want to play games? I can play too.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by Rotdhizon on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:43PM (#17569203)
By law a company can not refuse to return a defective item I believe. Whether they do it or refer you to the manufacturer, one way or another you are fully entitled to a refund if the item is defective. The whole "You can't make any returns if you make x amount" is more a scare tactic.
Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by 394549 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:01PM (#17570221)
> In my experience, Best Buy’s return policy and process has been awful. Granted it’s been years because it was so bad. Literally the worst of any store I’ve ever shopped at.

Last few times I've had to return something to Best Buy, it's been pretty painless and quick. They know their competition is Amazon and one of its strengths is its return experience.

Re:Best Buy Is Thriving in the Age of Amazon by Spooky23 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @09:36PM (#17571804)
I have a 10 minute rule. If I’m in line or get hassled for a return, I get chargeback. With Americans express, you can do it online from your phone with no hassle at all.

Most retail purchases can be returned via the credit card no problem.