There is a difference between urban sprawl and wilderness. Wilderness is good, urban sprawl is bad.

We should focus on high density housing around transit hubs and then build more transit hubs. We should focus on livability of the high density housing.

There was a measure on the ballot in the south bay where a major builder wanted to rezone an area for more housing. That part was good since it was not zoned for open space but rather industrial. But then they wanted to remove all ordinances for livability. That was wrong and the measure was correctly defeated.

Part of the problem is with the planning department, part was with NIMBYs, but part is with the builders. There are only a few builders who are capable of high density housing and they want to play hard ball.