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Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kevindqc on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:17AM (#17558576)
Don't you just need to long press the app icon and choose disable/delete?
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by mehrdadn on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:21AM (#17558634)
For the ones that allow you to, yeah. But how would you e.g. easily disable/delete Google Play Services (say, if you didn't want Google on your phone)? The disable option is disabled.

Also, even when I try disabling some of these built-in Google apps that I supposedly can disable, I get a prompt warning me that "If you disable a built-in app, other apps may misbehave"... you can't keep a straight face telling a user "oh but you can easily disable this!" when you yourself are telling them the consequence is that it might break other things on their phone. (!)

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by testvox on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @12:16PM (#17559664)
They just mean apps that use Google play services will be broken. I don't think that's unreasonable. it seems you want it both ways, you want the ability to remove or disable Google play services, without losing access to them.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by gmiller123456 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @12:51PM (#17559980)
A lot of built in apps do not offer services to other apps, but they still display the same message. Google Play Services is the exceptional case.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by ionised on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:25AM (#17564649)
Some of them simply reactivate/redownload themselves every time you do this.

You basically have to root the phone to remove a lot of the Google/vendor bloatware.

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by enriquto on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:21AM (#17558625)
yes, but you cannot delete the google apps such as chrome or gmail (the option is not "enabled")
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by vetinari on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @01:52PM (#17560549)
You can disable both. (I have Chrome disabled, because I like Firefox more).
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by digi_owl on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:27AM (#17558688)
Thankfully those are most often bundled as stubs that take barely any space. roll back the updates and then disable. Did that to Chrome for the longest time as i was using Firefox on my Android device (before Mozilla went nuts. Now i am flipflopping between Opera and Brave, while waiting for Vivaldi to get a mobile version).
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by mehrdadn on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:36AM (#17558778)
Keep in mind that (a) if the fact that you have to roll back updates is not obvious to people here, I'm not sure how a normal user is supposed to find it "easy", and (b) if you have to roll it back too, you'd lose your data in that app, so it's neither as consequence-free as disabling, nor as thorough as deleting (freeing all the space etc.).
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kllrnohj on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @01:36PM (#17560386)
Simply hitting "disable" warns you that it will uninstall updates & delete user data.

It's literally a single button press to get back 100% of the space possible, and it's the button called "disable" right in front at the top of the app's info section.

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by enriquto on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @02:38PM (#17560963)
It's infuriatingly confusing and it's not clear that you will get back 100% of the space. If they are sincere about this, why cannot you simply fucking uninstall the damn application ? No stub, no nothing. Just a normal app like the others, that you can install or not.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kllrnohj on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @02:55PM (#17561100)
Because it's on the system partition which is fixed size and read-only. That's how factory reset works, by nuking the data partition.

They probably should just lie and rename the button to uninstall. That's basically what it is.

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kllrnohj on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @01:35PM (#17560374)
Yes, you can. Both gmail & chrome have working disable buttons. At least they do on a Pixel 2.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by s73v3r_ on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @01:50PM (#17560517)
Disable is not delete.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kllrnohj on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @02:56PM (#17561111)
Yes, it is. It no longer exists on the data partition nor can it run any code or be loaded. It has no size impact to you.

The only difference is a factory reset will restore it.

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by s73v3r_ on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @03:11PM (#17561237)
"Yes, it is"

No, it isn't. That's why they call it "disable" and not "delete".

Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by kllrnohj on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @05:07PM (#17562071)
Ok so they just need to rename the button and you're happy. Got it.
Re:Google warns Android might not remain free because of EU ... by russdpale on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:53PM (#17561972)
Some apps can't be disabled. The t-mobile application for instance.