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Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by dunpeal on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @07:12PM (#17554332)
Standard founder bravado. This is basically part of their pitch.

"If we are right, then we're going to dominate the market that all the big boys are investing billions to control."

(Not being disparaging at all - their value proposition actually looks interesting.)

Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by Fricken on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @10:37PM (#17555209)
Zoox is differentiated. They're the only autonomous vehicle outfit thinking about a self driving car as a robot from the ground up, rather than just a car with some sensors slapped on to it and a giant computer in the trunk.
Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by throwawaymath on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @11:44PM (#17555444)
For those of us who don't have a background in robotics, do you mind giving a short explanation on the difference between a robot and a car with sensors/computers attached?
Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by Fricken on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @12:08AM (#17555521)
Take a look at their prototypes, the wheels are all independently articulated. A human would have a lot of difficulty handling a car like that, but for a robot it's no big deal. This might be genius or it might be crazy, it really depends on whether they can execute.

Zoox is the only company we know of that is building a robotaxi from the ground up rather than just retrofitting a vehicle designed for something else. Although Einride has a concept built for a highway freight hauler with no driver cabin, and Nuro has several delivery vehicles built with no room for a human on board.

The term 'self driving car' is kind of like the term 'Horseless Carriage'. It's transitional.

Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by igravious on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:54PM (#17570671)
You win the prize. First person to articulate clearly the differentiating factor.

Give that, I'll say this. Mobile robot from the ground up = next level hard. Level 5 autonomy = next level hard. Both simultaneously? Good luck.

Question though, what if there's a regulatory requirement for future vehicles to have a mandatory human driver mode (manual override) that's a touch of a button away?

Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by plaguuuuuu on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @02:46AM (#17555967)
if that is such a great driver of value, they could have set themselves up purely as a car builder that could partner with companies doing self driving cars..
Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by Fricken on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @03:01AM (#17556025)
It's robotics, at the design/development stage the software and hardware are entwined. Conceivably, when Zoox has a finished, validated prototype and are ready to mass produce, they could go to a contract manufacturer like Magna-Steyer.
Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by dunpeal on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @10:45PM (#17555247)
Yeah, not disputing that. Like I wrote, they have an interesting value proposition.

The line about disrupting a huge market is still par the course, what's expected of them.

Re:Zoox and Its $800M Robo Taxi Dream [video] by Fricken on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @12:57AM (#17555663)
I wasn't disagreeing with you, just adding to your point. I too find their value proposition very interesting