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Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by CryoLogic on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:32PM (#17537718)
The biggest downside is not energy efficiency IMO, it's speed. The speed difference between h.264 and h.265 encoding can be easily 10 fold. More-so on CPU reliant servers without GPUs. There is a big upfront sacrifice to get the small video size.
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by flyGuyOnTheSly on Sunday July 15, 2018 @11:08PM (#17538489)
>There is a big upfront sacrifice to get the small video size.

Still, the benefit to the millions of people who might download and watch a video surely outweighs the cost of the one individual computer that spent 10x the amount of CPU cycles encoding it.

Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by IntelMiner on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:02AM (#17539306)
Piracy "scenes" have an eternal pissing contest about being the "first" to release something. Bragging rights seem to trump quality, unfortunately
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by zamadatix on Sunday July 15, 2018 @08:55PM (#17538004)
Pascal GPUs h265 encoding is 50% or higher than h264 encoding speeds. A single GTX 1080 can nvenc h265 8k@30 10bpp. A 150 dollar GPU will outperform a 3,000 dollar CPU only server in encoding (regardless if it's h264 or 265).

The REAL blockers are licensing and, more importantly, legacy consumer hardware. Whether you want to call the latter a speed or power problem isn't the real issue, it's that not all consumers have the dedicated hardware and the older CPU then has the speed and power problems.

Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by kevingadd on Sunday July 15, 2018 @09:20PM (#17538092)
With GPU encoding it's important to take into account that GPU encodes are usually delivering way lower quality levels per bit, especially if you're looking for fast speeds. The difference is dramatic if you compare a Twitch stream (for example) encoded with NVENC to one encoded with x264. Of course, hardware encoders let you achieve things that you simply can't do with CPU encoding, so sometimes that quality hit is irrelevant... but if you're talking about whether to use h265 instead of h264, it's possible the bitrate and quality improvements aren't that dramatic when you're using nvenc.
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by deno on Monday July 16, 2018 @05:54AM (#17539955)
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by rasz on Sunday July 15, 2018 @10:31PM (#17538358)
why do you specifically mention GTX 1080? There is zero difference between 1050ti and 1070 when it comes to encoding, does 1080 change anything?
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by IntelMiner on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:04AM (#17539313)
Anecdotal evidence, and possibly an FFmpeg/Nvenc bug

I've found that I'm not able to encode video above the size of the VRAM on the GTX 1050 in my home server. It seems to spew out errors, despite the GPU's memory usage being roughly 60MB from ffmpeg

My GTX 1080 meanwhile seems to happily churn through anything and everything thrown at it

Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by xxpor on Sunday July 15, 2018 @08:52PM (#17537990)
Even for decoding, you really need hardware acceleration. Trying to decode H.265 on one of these ARM based TV media players is an exercise in futility unless you have HW.
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by skrowl on Sunday July 15, 2018 @11:14PM (#17538503)
The biggest downside is that your phone / tablet / etc can hardware decode h.264, and has to run h.265 or av1 decoding in software. As a result, your battery life gets killed when watching h.265 / av1.
Re:Modern codecs like AV1 can bring better quality video to ... by snvzz on Monday July 16, 2018 @05:19AM (#17539818)
This is indeed a downside right now, but won't be once hardware support is in.

That's expected on new devices at some point next year.