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Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by agumonkey on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:02PM (#17536769)
because the 'market' decided that style was valueable and io was meh.

a bit like cellphones with glued batteries, they removed 'user replaceable' for thinness.

Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by bollockitis on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:17PM (#17536837)
Thinness does have some value for phones. For laptops, there's certainly a market for ultra portable machines but Apple seems to have forgotten that some of us use our computers for work and are willing to trade off thinness for practical usability.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by Fomite on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:37PM (#17536943)
I think the issue is that articulating that balance is hard - for example, the original thinner retina MBP lost some practical usability, but from a work standpoint for me, it was worth it for the increased portability.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by agumonkey on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:33PM (#17537209)
same goes for smartphones, sadly the market has a tendency to align with 'stupid' goals and so no more production of non-thin devices. I'd be very happy with a thicker phone (larger battery, more shock resilience and even... some buttons)
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by TylerE on Sunday July 15, 2018 @06:04PM (#17537341)
So get a thin phone and put a battery back case on it?
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by agumonkey on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:03PM (#17537588)
that's a possibility but I find the idea a bit stupid, I get two parts that will probably won't feel as nice, and probably not sturdy together.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by JumpCrisscross on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:14PM (#17536813)
> they removed 'user replaceable' for thinness

Also better water resistance.

Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by nradov on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:56PM (#17537311)
That's a myth. Some of the older Samsung models had removable batteries and good water resistance ratings.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by mancerayder on Sunday July 15, 2018 @06:41PM (#17537509)
Like the beloved S4 Active. It even came in a camo color scheme, for those more rugged outdoor types. I still have it as a sort of alarm clock/emergency phone by my bedside.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by agumonkey on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:34PM (#17537215)
no way to have sealed covers ? (open question)
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by matt4077 on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:11PM (#17536804)
...which happened just around the time batteries became good enough for both daily use, as well as a phone’s typical lifespan.

10 years or so ago, a three-year old cell phone battery would still be good for maybe three or four hours per charge. Today, I’m using a 5-year old iPhone that still gets through a typical day on a single charge.

There are also battery cases, or external battery banks, whose introduction has solved most people’s battery-related questions, except “why are people still complaining about non-removable batteries?”

Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by agumonkey on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:32PM (#17537203)
well it just happen that my moto g1 battery died so I had to find a supplier (harder since it's not a shelf part anymore) and disassemble the phone (the battery is still glued, I'm waiting for the replacement to do that).

all your points are valid though, but still I like a bit of swappability.