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Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by donbright on Sunday July 15, 2018 @01:56PM (#17536234)
one interesting thing is that the BBS would have been impossible if the government hadn't forced AT&T to allow people to hook their own chosen devices into the telephone network.

In other words, in the old days, phones did not have a jack in the wall - AT&T came to your house and wired their network directly into your telephone. They did not want the RJ-45 jack which made consumer Modems possible. The government forced them to open up their network to other device makers, to competitors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carterfone

I really wonder if the modern techno giants would be able to be regulated by the government if they became stagnant monopolies.

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by pasbesoin on Sunday July 15, 2018 @02:49PM (#17536435)
I remember using a 300 baud modem with an acoustic coupler (rubber-cupped cradle). After a while, that got swapped out for a electrically-connected/jacked 1200 baud modem.

That also made "war dialing" practical. Not something I engaged in (kind of wish now that I'd been more "interesting"), but the business I was connecting to had to block an ex-employee a couple of times, who kept finding their dial-in number.

Today's systems may be way faster and more "entertaining", in a mass sense. But I miss the old culture.

Including the openness and exchange. If you were interested, and you weren't a jerk, people would bend over backwards to help you. And they enjoyed doing so -- well, most of them. Which is how I ended up on those first systems, anyway.

I think a lot of people miss that culture. But, it just doesn't scale to the general population.

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by PhasmaFelis on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:16PM (#17537640)
> I think a lot of people miss that culture. But, it just doesn't scale to the general population.

I think that's the crux of it. It worked because it wasn't instantly accessible to everyone. There was a certain minimum level of tech savvy, or at least intellectual curiosity, required. Most people were emotionally invested, at least a little, and that helped form strong communities.

I love that the internet is so egalitarian, but I do miss the days when things were smaller and tighter-knit; when most services were run for love, not for money.

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by isostatic on Sunday July 15, 2018 @03:54PM (#17536740)
Surely people today have watched Wargames - Broderick used an acoustic coupler in his nefarious attempts to get into his classmate's pants
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by LeoPanthera on Sunday July 15, 2018 @04:31PM (#17536913)
Which, perhaps ironically, is a small plot hole in the movie. "Wardialing" is not possible with a coupler - since the computer has no ability to hang up, or dial. When using a coupler, you have to dial manually.
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by kimdotcom on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:47PM (#17537770)
Could you not run a relay from thr parallel port and pulse dial?
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by LeoPanthera on Sunday July 15, 2018 @11:39PM (#17538581)
Yeah, you could. But there’s no pulse dialing depicted in the movie.
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by pasbesoin on Sunday July 15, 2018 @03:58PM (#17536752)
I was wondering about that, but I didn't update my post. Was there an acoustic hang-up signal? I've forgotten.

Regardless, the 1200 baud modem, in addition to feeling like it was "keeping up" with the user, also made connecting more convenient.

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by kimdotcom on Sunday July 15, 2018 @03:32PM (#17536637)
Nitpick, RJ-11, but before that was a four-prong.
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by orionblastar on Sunday July 15, 2018 @06:57PM (#17537559)
I can confirm the four prong. My father installed phones. Had support for two lines black and yellow wires and red and green wires. Two wires per phone.
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by icedchai on Sunday July 15, 2018 @09:22PM (#17538102)
Yep, can also confirm. My parents have a four-prong to RJ-11 adapter in their house, built in the 60's.
Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by exikyut on Sunday July 15, 2018 @08:27PM (#17537892)
So that's why early modems were accoustic couplers!!

I never even questioned it. It was just "wow it's so old it just works that way."

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by q3k on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:57PM (#17537314)
Similar story to the CCC Datenklo [1].

[1] - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenklo

Re:Social Media’s Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board Syste... by PhasmaFelis on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:17PM (#17537649)
A strong point against the "deregulate everything" crowd, especially now with net neutrality under attack.