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Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by swombat on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:29AM (#1752758)
It's worth pointing out that all those discussions about what is the new currency or what not are only even remotely possible in the very advanced, almost-post-scarcity economies that we live in.

If the global economy collapses or a world war erupts, for example, hackers, bankers, public speakers, and other intellectuals like us, may find that the real currency becomes the ability to grow vegetables on a piece of land. Cue virtuoso pianists exchanging their £10k Steinberg concert grand piano for a sack of potatoes.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by notahacker on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:08AM (#1752825)
It won't need a global collapse for all but a tiny handful of startups that consider revenue irrelevant to run out of funding before turning a profit. "Relevance" is only a means to currency, whether it's coming from your user base or the perceived future value of your user base.

There are worse things than being an "irrelevant" behemoth that generates wads of cash and uses it to buy more innovative companies that don't too.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by gaius on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:01AM (#1752815)
It's more likely in that scenario that Steinbergs and Stradivarii would be burnt for warmth.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by sjs382 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @09:51AM (#1752703)
Okay, you can have the relevancy while I take the revenue...
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by BorisBomega on Sunday October 03, 2010 @09:52AM (#1752704)
Thanks. :-)
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by henning on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:09AM (#1752724)
I could help you forget revenue by taking all your money. That would free you up to focus on being relevant, which is what really matters. Deal?
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by MChrisP1 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:02AM (#1752717)
I absolutely agree. There will be a bigger better thing than Facebook at some point. There is always something bigger and better. Facebook will represent a major plateau in social technology, no doubt about it. Facebook changed the social landscape of over 500 million people and counting.

Remember however that relevance is increasingly driven by the user's want of instant, here and now, access to information. Location sharing, augmented reality,RFID, Qr codes, and mobile social games are all very new and exciting. Add to that the ultracool mobile hardware out there from Androids to iPhones and the tee tablet market and I see unlimited possibilities here! It's exciting! There is so much possibility when you look at all of those variables, I can't believe that there wont be newer and shinier platform that catches us by storm! 5 years from today I'm sure we'll know the Facebook killers name...we may already know it.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by tjic on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:18AM (#1752848)
The great thing about the Old Currency is that I can spend it to buy things I want: food, clothes, books.

Until the New Currency can do that, I think I'll stick with the Old Currency.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by BorisBomega on Sunday October 03, 2010 @03:29PM (#1753412)
You obviously haven't read the post.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by joey_bananas on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:55AM (#1752803)
This sounds a lot like those "new economy" screeds in Wired back in the dotcom days.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by edw519 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:49AM (#1752795)
Forget Gravity. Lift Is The New Currency.

Why should we forget fundamentals just because the models are constantly changing?

Just like an airplane can defy gravity for a while, so can a business without revenue. But sooner or later, both must return to earth.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by ronin358 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @01:21PM (#1753099)
Out of curiosity, did you actually read the article, or did you just comment on the title?

The article used facebook, which already has about $800m in revenue, as a starting point to discuss a major factor of success for social media. He had a good point.

edit/ In fact, his point could be applied very well to the recent Digg fiasco. If they had ranked "relevance to users" as high as "revenue maximization" then they may not have lost so many users.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by kevin_morrill on Monday October 04, 2010 @03:20AM (#1754891)
Do you know how much of that $800 million is recurring income? They have >$100 million deals with both Google and Microsoft separately. From what I've heard their popularity with advertisers, their actual paying customer, is in the tank. They are also one of the costliest websites in the world to run.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by waterlesscloud on Monday October 04, 2010 @03:24AM (#1754902)
Enough that they're telling people they're going to hit $2 Billion in revenue this year.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/01/facebook-will-hit-2-billion...

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by elblanco on Sunday October 03, 2010 @12:06PM (#1752931)
I think I'll start paying my employees with "relevance checks" instead of real money...if they argue with me I'll just tell them "forget money! just be more relevant!"
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by gaius on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:02AM (#1752818)
I remember back in the 90s when they said "content is king".

Cash is king, always was, always will be. Otherwise it's not business.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by jacquesm on Sunday October 03, 2010 @04:45PM (#1753567)
If I had focused on 'relevance' or 'eyeballs' in stead of on 'turnover' and 'profits' I would have been out of business long ago.

Unless you are very well connected and have a clear exit route in sight please don't forget revenue.

And nobody says you can't have both relevance and revenue, it's not like they're opposites.

Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by johannchiang on Sunday October 03, 2010 @12:31PM (#1752997)
It is probably true for platform companies, but in the end cash still rules. With respect, I think Facebook and Tencent are the only few "egoless" big players trying to stay relevant in the paranoid way. They will not give any chance to any threat in their game by copying ideas from startups fast. They know their games.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by JunkDNA on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:48AM (#1752896)
Yeah, funny thing is that my bank won't let me pay my mortgage or credit card bills with "relevance".
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by ajg1977 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:54AM (#1752802)
Summary: "Companies such as Facebook should worry more about staying relevant than making a profit".
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by MChrisP1 on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:19PM (#1754340)
Customers=Currency So by proxy, anything that attracts the customer is currency. What attracts the customer is what us relevant to the user.
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by kristaps on Sunday October 03, 2010 @10:31AM (#1752759)
To me it sounds a bit like "the old rules don't apply."
Re:Forget Revenue. Relevance Is The New Currency. by zeedotme on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:43AM (#1752879)
i can't believe this post got buried.