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Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by taternuts on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:10PM (#17525289)
What's your daily driver/cheaper bottle of choice? You seem to have similar tastes to mine, personally I love Eagle Rare for the price point but would like to find some other good ones.
Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by tptacek on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:16PM (#17525341)
My daily is Very Old Barton (so: much cheaper). My basic rule is that you can't go wrong with anything that is also sold in a bonded expression (and you can't go wrong with the bonded expressions themselves), and that it comes down to whether you like rye-spice-dry (Four Roses, Old-Granddad, VOB) or wheat-sweet-mellow (Weller, Makers, Fitzgerald).
Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by Infernal on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:11PM (#17525805)
Top comment - I’ve been drinking bourbon for years but don’t know much about it, I just try to get a bottle of something I haven’t tried before whenever I run out. Of those six you categorized, I’ve only tried Four Roses and Makers, and I do prefer the Four Roses but didn’t know why - now I will be sure to try Old-Granddad and Very Old Barton to see if your categorization holds!

Also I could google it but it’s more fun to discuss - what is a bonded expression, and why do you consider a non-bonded expression of something available bonded to be better than a non-bonded expression of something that isn’t available bonded?

Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by tptacek on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:26PM (#17525926)
Bonded whiskeys are legally certified to be (and kept in custody to ensure they remain):

* The product of one distillery

* The product of one distilling season

* Aged at least 4 years

* Bottled at at least 100 proof

For the most part, as a consumer, you don't care about these particulars. For instance, 50% ABV is on the high side for what's pleasant without dilution.

However, a distilling brand that can produce a bonded bourbon or rye expression is probably not playing games with their non-bonded bourbon or rye; that there is a bonded VOB strongly suggests that all VOB bourbon comes from VOB distilleries (and isn't sourced from MGP or simply relabeled Heaven Hill). So you can pay a little extra for the bonded VOB, or just buy regular old VOB trusting that their ability to produce bonded bourbon means their non-bonded bourbon is just as good (which is a safe bet).

An annoying thing to be careful about: just because someone produces a respected (or bonded) bourbon doesn't mean their rye is trustworthy, and vice versa. Distilling brands do brand extensions into other whiskeys by sourcing from other distilleries and rebranding.

Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by js2 on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:36PM (#17528014)
You might find this interesting for comparing bourbons:

https://www.gq.com/story/bourbon-whiskey-family-tree

That said, I find from year to year my preferences change, since I doubt it’s the whiskies themselves changing very much.

Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by kasey_junk on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:56PM (#17526165)
Throw a Wild Turkey in there and if you spend a little bit more a Makers Mark also.

When trying Wild Turkey make sure to take note of which heat version you are drinking.

Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by Infernal on Saturday July 14, 2018 @09:08PM (#17533282)
I've had the Wild Turkey 101 (aka about the most "regular" one I could find) and I don't recall it making any particular impression - though I don't keep notes either, nothing really stood out about it that I can remember less than a year later.
Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by js2 on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:40PM (#17528030)
I live in NC where Old Weller Antique has become unobtainable. It’s annoying since it was my favorite wheater. So I make do with Makers. I’ve tried Larceny a few times but it isn’t winning me over (I know it isn’t a bourbon).
Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by tptacek on Friday July 13, 2018 @10:29PM (#17528460)
Is there a place in the US where any Buffalo Antique is reliably obtainable? It's been years since I've been able to get my hands on any here in Chicago; I manage to get my hands on a bottle about every 18 months or so.
Re:Why Japanese Whisky Is So Good and So Hard to Find by js2 on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:33PM (#17528003)
If you like Eagle Rare, give Henry McKenna a taste.