Should I Learn Java in 2018

Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by hugh4life on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:00AM (#17522126)

One annoyance with Java(and Kotlin too) is that it's pretty much the only language left that you really ought to use a specialized IDE with while pretty much every other language(including C#) you can get adequate support in VS Code or Emacs.

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by sydd on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:09AM (#17522185)

I think its the other way, there are only a few languages with as superb IDE support as Java. AFAIK its just C++, Java and C#.

You can get shitty support with just syntax coloring for anything and anywhere of course.

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by cm2187 on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:23AM (#17522277)

Couldn't agree more. A powerful IDE with rich, intuitive, self-discoverable, user friendly design tools, debugging and refactorisation is as important to me than the language itself.

And I'd say a third thing that matters as much as IDE and syntax is the wealth of libraries. Not just common things like consuming a rest API. But also specialised things like dealing with spreadsheets, music, whatever your domain cares about.

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by acdha on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:31AM (#17522340)

That gap is closing – e.g. VS Code has refactoring, definition lookup, linting, etc. support for Python, JavaScript, TypeScript, Rust, etc.

It’s still not what the top IDEs can provide but it’s way more than syntax highlighting and since everything is open source it’s improving a lot faster than the commercial market.

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by inertiatic on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:05AM (#17522159)

VS Code isn't that bad from my experience. I tried working on a small project with VS Code (as opposed to working with Intellij as I usually do for my job) and I didn't miss that much.

Might be that as complexity grows you need more and more IDE features to deal with it, but that's a symptom of older codebases being in Java more than it's a fault of the language itself, right?

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by pjmlp on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:04AM (#17522152)

The annoyance is the lack of productivity when going back to the 80's style of programming.

Using IDEs since mid-90's, and I used to know XEmacs quite well.

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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by bloomthrowaway on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:03AM (#17522144)

VS Code support for Java ain't bad

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