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Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by extralego on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:31PM (#17517843)
For similar reasons, I highly recommend a book called Capital: Critique of Political Economy. And likewise, some people may have strong opinions about the author’s work. I'd really encourage them to put them aside and deeply understand his points + context.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by x0f1a on Friday July 13, 2018 @07:55AM (#17522102)
I would complement it with a second book about capital: Capital in the Twenty-First Century - Thomas Piketty. I am not sure neither of this books have the solutions but they were enlightening for me.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by HenryTheHorse on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:43PM (#17517978)
I can't quite tell if you're being sarcastic or earnest.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by jjoonathan on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:23PM (#17518307)
The descriptive work of he-who-shall-not-be-named is leagues ahead of his prescriptive work (not surprising -- fixing problems tends to be harder than finding them).

The problems he addresses still abound and it's really a pity we have culturally suppressed the vocabulary and arguments he put forward to talk about them.

So, my guess: serious.

Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by backpropaganda on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:38AM (#17520940)
Funny how when I replaced the big hyphenated word with the 4-letter name, it actually triggered an emotional response in me which made me dismiss the rest of your comment, even though I was fine with the comment without the substitution. Weird how human brains work.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by jjoonathan on Friday July 13, 2018 @11:24AM (#17523686)
Even crazier: I have the same emotional response to the substitution and I'm the one who wrote the comment.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by dimillian on Friday July 13, 2018 @05:53AM (#17521664)
So the crowd forbid to name Karl Marx here of what?
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by freeflight on Friday July 13, 2018 @06:20AM (#17521749)
Not the crown, but the Overton window.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by backpropaganda on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:08PM (#17525776)
Using certain names and terms on Reddit and Twitter (not sure about HN) does bring bots in who then try to influence the conversation with votes and propaganda comments. So J. K. Rowling made quite an accurate prediction about how society might interact with advanced technology (aka magic).
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by woah on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:07PM (#17520036)
It’s very good. This guy was about 150 years ahead of the AI job loss/ singularity crowd. In Capital he doesn’t even really get into the politics that much, it’s more an analysis of automated manufacturing.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by bobwaycott on Friday July 13, 2018 @01:18PM (#17524825)
I think you've misunderstood quite a lot if you think Capital is an analysis of automated manufacturing that doesn't get into politics that much.

It doesn't get into politics the way a typical work on political theory might, but that is, I think, very much intentional. Capital centers on the problems and politics of its day, while attempting to critique and respond to them. It does this by establishing a thorough foundation for a better politics focused on achieving a very particular goal--obtaining true freedom from [social/political/economic] coercion and domination. That it seems ahead of its time is a testament to it continuing to be relevant--because the issues it focuses on continue to exist.

That Capital is so widely misunderstood--both by those who turned it into a foundation for totalitarian negation of its foundational principles, as well as those who hold that regrettable history up as an indictment of the principles themselves--is regrettable, and the world is worse off for it.

If you're interested in disabusing yourself of the notion that Capital is an analysis of automated manufacturing, and not a proper work of political theory, I'd wholeheartedly recommend the exceedingly approachable and well-cited book Marx's Inferno by William Clare Roberts. Roberts, in my opinion, gets Capital (and Marx) right--and presents an incredibly compelling argument for a literary connection that really is a first of its kind. Then I'd recommend re-reading Capital, while reminding yourself that Capital is on a mission, and that mission isn't to explain how manufacturing works. :)

Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by thedailymail on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:31PM (#17520322)
It makes me smile that his concept of immiseration has the valid alternative spelling: e-miseration
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by extralego on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:47PM (#17518015)
Read it and you will wonder no more.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by Fukkaudeku on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:52PM (#17518491)
This, but unironically.
Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by extralego on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:13PM (#17519389)
In all honesty, none was intended.

It struck me that my favorite intellects usually do foremost concern themselves with “how poorly we understand systems and why it's critical we get better at managing them”. This intellect just seems most important right now.