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Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by tjohns on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:01PM (#17517587)
I didn't mean to imply that the concerns were unfounded. I know there are real, legitimate complaints with the touchbar.

At the same time, I just wanted to point out that there are at least some developers who do prefer it, and that the dislike isn't universal.

Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by munk-a on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:40PM (#17517945)
So maybe a nice compromise would be having both... having a touchbar that can be customized in addition to a standard set of function keys.
Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by inferiorhuman on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:58PM (#17518110)
Or one model with and one model without. I don't like the touchbar (keys move around and change size depending on context, escape can be triggered by touching areas outside of the escape key, touch bar locks up / crashes) but I'm largely indifferent to it. My primary complaint is the awful butterfly keyboard itself. There's too little travel, the keyboard itself is far too delicate (only took a few weeks for the spacebar to start crapping out on my 2016), and the layout is subpar.

My mid-2012 MPB is in need of a replacement, but the butterfly keyboard is a dealbreaker. I'm not thrilled with the touch bar, generally supportive of USB-C (although I miss magsafe), will tolerate the glossy screen and oversized trackpad, and don't give two hoots about the fingerprint reader. If Apple could see fit to provide a current gen MBP with a proper keyboard I'd buy one in a heartbeat. As it is, when my MBP dies for good I'm almost certainly moving to a Linux laptop.

Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by mrkstu on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:54PM (#17518508)
That's what I don't understand- there is plenty of room for both, especially on the 15". Just add the Touch Bar strip above the function keys and call it a day...