Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server

Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by grapeli23 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:42PM (#17517433)

You probably never heard or used - Linux VServer. Available from the later version of the 2.4 kernel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-VServer

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by xj9 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:30PM (#17517833)

> 2008

FreeBSD jails date from 2000

Solaris zones date from 2004

https://us-east.manta.joyent.com/bcantrill/public/ppwl-cantr...

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by grapeli23 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:20PM (#17518288)

2003 http://linux-vserver.org/Overview#History

In the Linux distribution that I used (PLD), the first vserver support took place in january 2004. https://github.com/pld-linux/kernel/commit/5be58c1bcc5568676...

Maybe a little earlier because the util-vserver showed in Nov 2003. https://github.com/pld-linux/util-vserver/commit/c4036d6e748...

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by taeric on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:21PM (#17517237)

Be fair here. The software world is slowly recreating technology. Being even more fair, they do often add to it. Usually UX capabilities, but sometimes full on features. Yes, often the features require more resources than were available before. Such that previous versions couldn't have offered some of these things.

That said, it is not limited to any one set of our industry. It is likely not even limited to our industry.

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by redbeard0x0a on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:36PM (#17518834)

Software getting recreated, sometimes without the security promises (linux containers as they started vs. solaris zones) the previous solution had. To be fair, Google didn't really need the security in linux containers, they didn't run multi-tenant workloads, so it wasn't their top concern when submitting code to the linux kernel...

We like building new things, from different angles, but in the end it seems like everything cycles through the same ideas.

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by taeric on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:19PM (#17519419)

Completely agreed. It is hilarious because we all preach "don't reinvent the wheel" at the same time that our interviews are basically "can you implement this ridiculously low level wheel" on top of "come here where we are simply using the latest rims!" :)

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by tomsthumb on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:21PM (#17517239)

Which technologies were those?

I’m only vaguely familiar with FreeBSD, and not at all with Solaris.

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by devonkim on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:27PM (#17517295)

FreeBSD has had jails and Solaris has had zones (with a Linux compatible zone as well aka branded zone). Given Illumos takes a lot of its roots from Solaris, it also has LX branded zones.

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by pjmlp on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:52PM (#17517515)

And HP-UX/Tru64 before them.

We were deploying into HP Vaults in 2000.

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Re:Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server by ecnahc515 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:35PM (#17519718)

Yeah, except even jails has gaps, like for example; shared memory isn't jailed.

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