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Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by baggachipz on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:32AM (#17514981)
> a Tesla Model 3 which is barely shipping at all.

Sorry, but no. One can be had in just a couple months at this point, and that lead time will dwindle quickly now that they've really ramped production.

Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by michaelt on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:42AM (#17515059)
Perhaps I wasn't clear; what I mean to say is "barely shipping at all to my country" [1]

[1] http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/150839/new-tesla-model-3-pric...

Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by IkmoIkmo on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:03AM (#17515303)
Isn't production 20k a month and pre-orders >400k right now?

Doesn't seem like a couple a month right now and at all. Of course it could dwindle fast from here on out, but even if production doubles you'd still be looking at more than just a couple months. And you'd likely see pre-orders go up accordingly as well, I'm sure there's people who haven't pre-ordered because it makes no sense paying $1k to be on a 3 year waiting list, I wouldn't be surprised if waiting lists didn't budge nearly as much as production rates increase. And besides, doubling production isn't exactly trivial despite Tesla's erroneous claims in the past.

Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by stetrain on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:14AM (#17515417)
Depends on your country and configuration.

A large chunk of the 400k are probably outside of the US, and another chunk are waiting for cheaper configurations.

If you are in the US and order a 'First Production' model (Long Range battery + premium interior) you will definitely not be at the back of a 400k long line.

Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by bjl on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:54AM (#17515209)
Not if you want the $35K version, which was supposed to be available in mass quantities last year.
Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by skykooler on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:40AM (#17515043)
> a Bolt EV/Ampera-e which isn't sold in my country

Going off of this I would assume the parent poster isn't in the USA. In other countries, the Tesla Model 3 isn't expected to start deliveries until 2019.

Re:Will the Model 3 make Tesla a real car company? by athenot on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:38AM (#17515022)
That's an improvement from when I last checked. Though that's for the 310-mile model with premium interior, costing $49,000. That's the same price as a Lexus GS 350.