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Re:The Entire History of Steel by sitkack on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:47AM (#17512243)
I watched an amazing documentary, Bethlehem Steel, The People Who Built America [1], that went over the history and the processes involved in making steel as well as the sad decline (and preventable) of the American steel industry. And "The History of the American Steel Industry documentary" [2]

If you have a chance, tour a steel plant, they are amazing places. Nearly all of these location should offer tours

http://www.nucoraccount.com/locations.aspx

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTGiHOZZFU

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOzvl6KMRM

Re:The Entire History of Steel by throwawayjava on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:33AM (#17512405)
> as well as the sad decline (and preventable) of the American steel industry

I'm not sure where you get both "sad" and "preventable" from that documentary. The tragic decline of employment in the US steel industry was completely unavoidable.

The decline of American steel company's dominance between 1960 and 1980 might've been preventable, but the human carnage wrought by automation would've happened in any case.

Watching the documentary, you can see the coming storm. Every video of people working is a prelude to an industrial automation project. And it's no mistake that the documentary ends with an acknowledgment that today's steel workers operate a keyboard and mouse.

The most important lesson from steel is that competitive pressures + new ways of automating things = huge disruptions in the labor market (read: lots of poverty where once there was wealth).

Re:The Entire History of Steel by sitkack on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:19PM (#17520073)
Nucor still exists, Bethlehem does not. They sat on their market leadership, had a rudderless and massive management staff. I am talking about the companies, not the workers. Steel is so critical to civilization, it is crazy we lost it as core competency.
Re:The Entire History of Steel by philipkglass on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:01AM (#17512489)
Take a look at the steel statistics on pages 5-7 of this report: https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/historical-statistic...

US apparent steel consumption was 97.8 million tons in 2012, the latest date available. That's a bit lower than the 106 million tons in 1968. American steel consumption has declined about 40% per capita. The US steel industry would have had to ramp up exports very aggressively to remain as large a portion of the US economy as it was in the 1960s.

Re:The Entire History of Steel by gregpilling on Friday July 13, 2018 @09:41PM (#17528282)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System

The interstate highway system got passed in 1956. It is now comprised of almost 50,000 miles of highway, and cost almost $500 Billion in todays dollars.

There would have been a whole lot of rebar used in the construction of all the concrete - bridges, overpasses, the concrete sections in Los Angeles and other high volume areas

Re:The Entire History of Steel by sitkack on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:21PM (#17520081)
> American steel consumption has declined about 40% per capita.

I wonder how much of that is from import auto sales? Or an overall drop in civic projects?

Re:The Entire History of Steel by philipkglass on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:35PM (#17520338)
It's measuring consumption, so I think that imported goods are included.

My top guesses as to causes would be a reduced pace of building/infrastructure construction, reduced steel content in cars, and cars lasting longer.