Please don't get personal, even if provoked. It breaks the civility rule and leads to worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> The Feds can regulate wire fraud--that is definitely commerce. Sorry you are very bent on misrepresenting me.

And yet, you wrote:

> I don't see how light crossing state borders is construed as commerce.

You're not convincing anyone when you pretend to be unable to understand how paying someone to carry information across state lines on your behalf is commerce.

I'm talking about the 1st amendment and the commerce clause, together and where they conflict. Sorry if I went a little abstract in a different series of comments.

Where's the first amendment come in to any of this? It sounds like you're trying to refer to first amendment rights of the ISP, but I don't see where that is at all relevant to their business of forwarding my packets. There's no speech on the part of the ISP to be restricted there, and forwarding my packets is in no way analogous to the ISP publishing anything. ISPs are extremely keen to make sure that their subscriber's data transmissions are never regarded as speech/publishing by the ISP itself, because of things like copyright infringement liability.