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Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by kingbirdy on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @01:20PM (#17500189)
Can someone with more knowledge on this topic speak to whether this is likely to take off, or is it just a research toy?
Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by n4r9 on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @02:40PM (#17500948)
Well, there's supposedly a much longer network in China:

https://www.opengovasia.com/articles/8091-worlds-longest-unh...

The theory is sound and the technology is getting there. The question is really whether there's enough commercial interest. Joe Public doesn't care too much about this level of security, but governments, journalists, intelligence groups, and companies with a lot of intellectual property do.

I predict that there will be some commercial uptake of this tech in 20 or so years time, but I don't think it'll be that exciting in terms of practical application. It's already possible to be confident that the pure algorithm is secure, i.e. communications can't be read without some sort of social engineering, backdoors or the like.

Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by Moodles on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:54PM (#17502062)
It's not likely to take off.

Do you want pre-shared secrets and the expense of a quantum network to, in theory, have infinite security (in theory!), or are you okay with tried and tested RSA which gives you >1000000000 years security at a much cheaper cost, that actually works in practice?

Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by OscarCunningham on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @06:06PM (#17502632)
Well not RSA, that will be broken by quantum computers. But there are some classical encryption methods that quantum computers are not known to break.
Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by lallysingh on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @02:34PM (#17500906)
Yes. Can these be used in cases where traditional radio systems can't be used? Like deeply submerged submarines?
Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by roywiggins on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @02:45PM (#17500986)
Having a bunch of entangled particles doesn't actually let you communicate. You still need to exchange particles with your interlocutor. If you can't communicate classically, you can't communicate with quantum states either- this is the no-communication theorem.

Quantum mechanics allows for superdense coding, where you get a bit more than one bit per particle, but it's probably not really helpful.

Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by lallysingh on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:04PM (#17501587)
But you can then twiddle with these photons after exchange right? Use them to communicate after? Otherwise what's the point?
Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by roywiggins on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @05:24PM (#17502317)
The theorem says that you specifically can't communicate with entanglement alone. It's spooky, but just non-spooky enough to forbid building an ansible. If you poke one part of an entangled pair, you can't actually force which state you will get. You will get a measurement, and the other can be measured as well and they will both be observed in some state- but you can't push one leftwards to get the other to go rightwards.

If you could, high speed traders would not bother with microwave links.

Quantum networks are (in theory) impossible to snoop on without detection, so they are useful for distributing cryptographic keys. They might be useful to pass quantum states around between quantum computers if they're reliable enough.

Re:Cambridge launches UK’s first quantum network by Strilanc on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:27PM (#17501830)
> Having a bunch of entangled particles doesn't actually let you communicate. [...] this is the no-communication theorem.