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Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by bryanlarsen on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:00AM (#17498131)
This is such an obvious problem with such an obvious solution it's surprising that so many efforts to solve it have fallen on their face: Motorola Atrix, Microsoft Continuum, Ubuntu Mobile, Samsung Dex, et cetera.

A mid-range phone has more than enough CPU, RAM, storage, GPU to do everything 99.9% of consumers need to do: browser, email, word, excel, Candy Crush, even Fortnite etc.

Just plug it into a USB-C monitor, plug a keyboard & mouse into the monitor & voila all your issues with sharing a computer and syncing your documents have disappeared. Along with time & money cost of maintaining multiple computers.

So why has it failed? It's a chicken & egg problem.

The available solutions aren't polished enough to be suitable for the mass market, and the market isn't big enough for all of the app providers to polish their app to seamlessly adapt between such disparate UI paradigms.

Normally, tech goes through the bleeding edge. Early adopters put up with the lack of polish and provide the early market for development of that polish. But the phone as a single unit of computing isn't suitable for the bleeding edge. The bleeding edge is pretty much the only place that needs specialized devices.

Chromebooks had a similar issue, but found their path to market through schools.

What is the phone as computer breakthrough market going to be?

I see two possibilities, there are probably others.

1: Apple. I'm confident that Apple has prototyped this out and then deemed it "not ready yet". If/when they do it, it will be polished from day 1 and would drag app makers along with them, solving that chicken & egg problem.

2: Businesses. I could easily imagine several large businesses targeting their in house apps at a phone or phone-like device that can plug into monitor stations.

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by anderspitman on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @12:10PM (#17499379)
I think the reason this hasn't caught on is because there isn't a big enough market period. Seems like most people only need a smartphone and a smart TV for personal uses. Anything work related is probably done on a computer provided at/by their. Makes me sad because I really want it to be a thing. I really like your idea of this getting going as a business-oriented product.
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by mark_l_watson on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @11:44AM (#17499077)
I think you have it exactly correct: either an iPhone or Android with a USB-C to quickly plug into a base station. With an eventual huge market, there would be good competition for inexpensive base station peripherals. That would provide a good web browser, keyboard, access to web IDEs, Office 365, etc.
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by chiefalchemist on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @12:53PM (#17499867)
re: "So why has it failed? It's a chicken & egg problem."

I think that ultimately, the hardware / software producers want it to fail. The more profit in selling you multiple "you MUST have THIS" widget and a single catch-all system for less money and less consumption.

How about an eco-system of hardware / solution as a service. I mean, aside from your contacts and photos what about your phone must you own?

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by jamesgeck0 on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @03:01PM (#17501121)
> I think that ultimately, the hardware / software producers want it to fail.

Then why did they invest so much money trying to make it work?