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Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by jartelt on Monday July 09, 2018 @10:56AM (#17490615)
I am all for shaming the auto manufacturers that get caught cheating. The regulations are aimed at reducing pollution and I think that is a good thing!
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by amarant on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:09AM (#17490766)
it's not about what the regulations AIM to do, it's what they achieve, and also if they could feasibly achieve something closer to their aim, which is what was suggested.

that's to say, if emission testing was done differently, maybe we would have caught these cars earlier. Now it seems likely every single non-electric car on the market is polluting more than advertised/allowed, which begs the question if there is a systemic issue here. I tend to agree that there is.

Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by ghostly_s on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:17AM (#17490842)
The 'systemic issue' is that conducting lab tests in cooperation with automakers is clearly an inadequate way of enforcing the regulations. That does not imply the regulations are faulty, it implies they need a more robust enforcement methodology.
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by amarant on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:20AM (#17490861)
yes, i see now i formulated that rather poorly. this is what I meant by systemic failure. the regulations themselves are not the issue.
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by eurticket on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:59AM (#17491199)
What if the AIM was to create the incentive for electric cars manufacturing
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by smt88 on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:11AM (#17490783)
As we've seen with Facebook, Equifax, and VW, shame has no lasting effects. It seems that even fines end up being slaps on the wrist.
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified by duckerude on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:07AM (#17490735)
The regulations might have a good aim, but when everybody is violating them it's probably safe to say something is wrong with them. I don't know if the problem is in the content or in the enforcement, but it exists.

I don't think criticism of regulations should replace shaming of auto manufacturers, but it might be more effective.