Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by WilliamEdward on Saturday July 07, 2018 @06:23PM (#17480974)

Calories-in-Calories-out is a straight-up fact. The thing 'scientists' don't like about it is that even if you lose the same amount of weight, where you got your calories from will impact your health differently depending on whether it's a chocolate bar or an apple. Nevertheless, Calories-in-Calories-out is a true model.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by projektir on Saturday July 07, 2018 @07:42PM (#17481299)

> where you got your calories from will impact your health differently depending on whether it's a chocolate bar or an apple

Is there evidence that this is sufficiently impactful that it should be brought up? I.e., if a person is steadily losing weight, but eating not super healthy, should we tell them to stop?

Overweight people often already don't eat very nutritiously so I'm not sure if it's a large impact. Basically afraid of "perfect is the enemy of good" here. Obesity is a very dominating factor as far as unhealth goes, and many "unhealthy" foods are often marked so because they link back to obesity.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by WilliamEdward on Sunday July 08, 2018 @12:33PM (#17484622)

It's impactful enough to be brought up because it's far more important to develop healthy eating habits than it is to lose weight in the long run. If you asked me whether it's more unhealthy to be obese than to be normal weight but eating food with no nutrients, that is something I cannot answer with evidence, but I'm inclined to say eating 5 chocolate bars a day will kill you faster.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by maxxxxx on Saturday July 07, 2018 @06:32PM (#17481036)

Very true. But don't make it the only factor in losing weight. You need to manage amount of food, what you eat and when you eat. They all are important.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by projektir on Saturday July 07, 2018 @07:58PM (#17481359)

Important in what sense?

Important in this context to me would mean: if I don't eat spinach, or if I skip breakfast, I will NOT lose weight on a calorie deficit. Is that what you mean by important what you eat and when you eat, or something else?

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by maxxxxx on Saturday July 07, 2018 @08:07PM (#17481389)

Let's assume you eat the same amounts. It makes a difference if you eat in the morning or in the evening. If you eat very late most likely you won't digest as well and you will gain weight.

You will always lose weight on a deficit but depending on when you eat the amount for a deficit will be different.

Same for the type of food. From my own observation I will gain weight if I eat only a few pretzels daily even if everything else is the same. I assume they cause my digestive system to lose efficiency.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by scarface74 on Saturday July 07, 2018 @08:45PM (#17481524)

Let's assume you eat the same amounts. It makes a difference if you eat in the morning or in the evening. If you eat very late most likely you won't digest as well and you will gain weight.

That’s considered a myth that’s been debunked ages ago.

https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-truth-myth-eating-n...

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by maxxxxx on Saturday July 07, 2018 @08:58PM (#17481577)

The good thing is that with eating you can do a lot of self experimentation and see if things work. I have done this experiment myself and I know a lot of people who also have noticed that the time and frequency of eating makes a huge difference. In this case I trust personal experience more than some study. The health profession doesn't have a very good track record of helping people with weight control.

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by scarface74 on Saturday July 07, 2018 @09:24PM (#17481673)

It’s not the time that you eat from what I’ve read. It ends up being a form of calorie restriction by reducing the number of hours that you eat.

If I come home, work out and then it’s late and I’m hungry,I’ll often just go to bed and not eat. It’s much easier dealing with hunger when you’re sleep than skipping breakfast and then trying to concentrate at work. It’s also, by definition, easier to resist temptation when you’re sleep....

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Re:Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy by maxxxxx on Saturday July 07, 2018 @09:38PM (#17481707)

And you sleep better on an empty stomach once you are used to it.

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