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Re:Say Hello to Full Employment by bjourne on Friday July 06, 2018 @08:18PM (#17476085)
It is essentially the only metric available that is readily comparable between countries. Also, whatever definition you use for "real unemployment rate" that rate will be linearly dependent on the U-3 metric. If the U-3 number goes up, then "real unemployment" goes up and likewise if it goes down.

Those who are interested can read the report to the 13th International Conference of Labour Statisticians (yes, there are conferences for everything) in which the unemployment definition which U-3 is based on was adpoted: http://www.ilo.org/public/libdoc/ilo/1982/82B09_438_engl.pdf

Re:Say Hello to Full Employment by oculusthrift on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:18PM (#17476776)
So if i’m despondent and give up searching for a job then doesn’t U-3 unemployment go down and therefore wouldn’t using a definition that included the despondent not be linearly dependent?
Re:Say Hello to Full Employment by indecisive_user on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:49PM (#17476869)
Though it seems hypothetically possible for what you're saying to happen, the data shows there's a linear relationship between many different definitions of unemployment throughout the years in the US.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/u-3-unemployment-rate-was-...

Re:Say Hello to Full Employment by a3n on Saturday July 07, 2018 @12:31AM (#17477014)
Yes, if your job is to track that analyze it and report on it.

But U3 is fine for year-to-year readings of employment temperature for lay people like most of us.

Re:Say Hello to Full Employment by vivekd on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:21PM (#17476785)
I want to add that "actual employment rate" or labor market participation rate is also a grossly misleading figure. For example America had it's highest labor market participation rate in 2000 - during the great recession. Also, Indonesia has a much higher participation rate than America and most Western countries, even though the job market there is likely not as good as Europe or America. Russia is above Germany despite the fact that any reasonable person would choose to job hunt in Germany over Russia. Unemployment does actually seem to be the better metric