Stuxnet Questions and Answers

Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by humbledrone on Friday October 01, 2010 @05:53AM (#1746541)

I'm very curious about what it's supposed to do as well. I work with SCADA systems, and I can confirm that it would be difficult/impossible to tell without knowing exactly what system it's targeting. SCADA systems are often controlled by writing to "points," which typically have numeric addresses. So point 35 might control the valve position in one installation, but it could control something totally different in another. You'd need to know the layout of the targeted system to know what parameters are controlled by what points.

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by joe_bleau on Friday October 01, 2010 @09:01AM (#1746868)

I'm under the (mistaken?) impression it uses the SCADA system to actually modify some of the low-level PLC library code. If so, I'd be looking for code likely to be used (by the actual plant PLC program) to stabilize a very high speed centrifuge (servo routines maybe), and introduce slight instabilities, or even better, excite a resonance.

"Hey, the VFDs are programmed to skip through this frequency band during the accel ramp to 25k RPM, but every once in a while they hickup and then the bearings rub. What's up with that?"

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by sunburnt on Friday October 01, 2010 @09:29AM (#1746927)

Q: What does it do with Simatic? A: It modifies commands sent from the Windows computer to the PLC. One running on the PLC, it looks for a specific factory environment. If this is not found, it does nothing.

So it seems that there is one factory layout Stuxnet is looking for. I.e. it will know what point 35 is.

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by borism on Friday October 01, 2010 @10:33AM (#1747127)

is it possible to determine which factory environment you're in? maybe it just tries the same combination in each and every one environment it gets to?

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by uxp on Saturday October 02, 2010 @05:14AM (#1750115)

Considering the size of the file, (and the fact I have not examined StuxNet), I'd assume that there is a good chance it has enough logic to determine which factory it is in by pure brute force.

If the main fan control gives a fairly standard reading, it shouldn't be too difficult figuring out what the particular factory it has infiltrated has wired that point to, for example.

Also, I haven't heard any definitives on what kind of factory this is targeting. I do know that there aren't many companies that develop and design high tech industrial facilities. Despite StuxNet having infected thousands (millions) of personal PCs, it really is only looking for maybe a few dozen or so in the world that are of the right type. Combine that with a low number of factory designs, and it could very well have a pre-determined database of how its intended targets are wired.

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by borism on Friday October 01, 2010 @09:10AM (#1746888)

But messing with various points at different facilities in the same way can still be catastrophic.

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Re:Stuxnet Questions and Answers by humbledrone on Friday October 01, 2010 @02:41PM (#1748067)

Very true. A simple "set everything to zero" approach would probably bring any facility to a halt (if not worse).

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