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Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by slowmovintarget on Thursday July 05, 2018 @12:12PM (#17464377)
I'll see your F# and raise you one Clojure.
Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by KirinDave on Thursday July 05, 2018 @01:38PM (#17465175)
I was around when the Clojure community seemed to make a conscious decision to not chase Android, so it's precisely their decision to miss that train.

But I think Clojure isn't in a terrible spot right now. It gets a modest amount of use. More than I think many people imagined it possibly could have.

Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by slowmovintarget on Thursday July 05, 2018 @06:03PM (#17467254)
I sincerely hope Datomic Ions[1] take off, they are an amazing way to run Clojure code.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbthtdBw93w

Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by yogthos on Thursday July 05, 2018 @11:31PM (#17468655)
Clojure approach to mobile development is to piggy back on React Native. Using [re-natal](https://github.com/drapanjanas/re-natal) is pretty smooth nowadays, and you get some really nice benefits such as hot code loading, and being able to use re-frame for the UI.

React Native works well enough for a lot of apps out there, and makes it relatively easy to write cross-platform apps. So, it's a pretty good platform to build on in my opinion.

Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by KirinDave on Friday July 06, 2018 @05:40PM (#17475352)
I dunno. I've yet to meet a shop that isn't tactically retreating from it within a year of shipping.
Re:Rise of Kotlin: A Programming Language for the Next Gener... by yogthos on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:09PM (#17476741)
I've seen about as many companies talking about being happy with it as those retreating from it. Personally, I haven't seen any issues with it that I would consider to be show stoppers.